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    Dieting rant

    The average American is completely confused about dieting and consequently I live in a nation of fatasses. Every other commercial on TV is either a supplement or a crazy idiosyncratic food selection to "lose those pounds".

    It takes some moderation and sacrifice. Its pure science: intake less food energy than you expend. You could eat 3 bowls of ice cream a day, sit on your XXX, and still lose weight if it was less calories than your natural expendature. You could also exercise a bit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SubtleRedFlag View Post
    The average American is completely confused about dieting and consequently I live in a nation of fatasses. Every other commercial on TV is either a supplement or a crazy idiosyncratic food selection to "lose those pounds".

    It takes some moderation and sacrifice. Its pure science: intake less food energy than you expend. You could eat 3 bowls of ice cream a day, sit on your XXX, and still lose weight if it was less calories than your natural expendature. You could also exercise a bit.

    Jesus

    Much the same problem in the UK. Basically if you eat ordinary foods regularly in moderation and take a moderate amount of exercise then you should be OK.

    Too many people are too lazy to do either. Much easier to eat at a rush, food which is unsuitable as main line eating, then throw in a few supplements.

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    Food economy. Get used to being fat in america!

    Our economy has been shifting from a manufacturing economy to a service economy in full swing since the Reagan years. Our survival is starting to becom dependent on resturaunts and fast-food. This is a terrifying thing, because that means people will not be able to eat well even if they want to. We are going to HAVE to eat out if we want our economy to prosper, there isn't goin to be any choice in the matter.

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    I fail to see much of a correlation between healthy eating and eating outside of the house (grocery store vs. service industry). The restaurants have to get their food from the same sources as consumers, we're only paying for the cooking/expertise/convenience.

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    The difference is that most restaurants serve far larger portions than you would consider cooking at home, will tend to cook things in more fat, and will tend to use cheaper ingredients than you would for your own cooking. Ultimately restaurant sources aren't the same as consumer ones, they're perhaps closer to those used to make ready meals, though it obviously depends on the quality of the restaurant.

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    Quote Originally Posted by procrastinating View Post
    Our economy has been shifting from a manufacturing economy to a service economy in full swing since the Reagan years. Our survival is starting to becom dependent on resturaunts and fast-food. This is a terrifying thing, because that means people will not be able to eat well even if they want to. We are going to HAVE to eat out if we want our economy to prosper, there isn't goin to be any choice in the matter.
    Can't see any logic or evidence for this.

    Up to the individual whether they want to make a little effort & feed themselves properly or do nothing and suffer sooner or later

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    Quote Originally Posted by SubtleRedFlag View Post
    I fail to see much of a correlation between healthy eating and eating outside of the house (grocery store vs. service industry). The restaurants have to get their food from the same sources as consumers, we're only paying for the cooking/expertise/convenience.
    Resturaunts do a number of things to make their food less healthy.

    1)fast food buys meat that is as high as 40% in fat. Thypical gound beef only has 20% fat
    2)Most resturaunts use deep fryers to cook their food. Deep fryers add a siginifivant amount of grease to meals.
    3)Resturants serve meals that are much larger than home meal serving sizes
    4)Sauces, and other high calorie toppings are all over resturaunts
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    evidence?

    Quote Originally Posted by peteratwar View Post
    Can't see any logic or evidence for this.

    Up to the individual whether they want to make a little effort & feed themselves properly or do nothing and suffer sooner or later
    Evidence of the economic shift? Our trade deficit has Quadruped since 1980, which means we import more than we export. We are importing all the things we used to produce.

    Evidence of people dependent on unhealthy food? depressed wages makes it harder for most people to buy food that is good for them. The difference between a grocery bill of low rate food compared to that of organic food is almost double.

    For a nation deep in credit card debt, student loans, car payments, and mortgages, it seems unlikely that even strong-willed people would be able to keep up the habbit of body health food.
    "Nickelback in Portugal"

    C. Kroeger - "Do you guys wanna hear some rock and
    roll, or should we just go home?
    {fan throws rock, hits Kroeger in head}
    C. Kroeger - "see ya"

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    Quote Originally Posted by procrastinating View Post
    Evidence of the economic shift? Our trade deficit has Quadruped since 1980, which means we import more than we export. We are importing all the things we used to produce.

    Evidence of people dependent on unhealthy food? depressed wages makes it harder for most people to buy food that is good for them. The difference between a grocery bill of low rate food compared to that of organic food is almost double.

    For a nation deep in credit card debt, student loans, car payments, and mortgages, it seems unlikely that even strong-willed people would be able to keep up the habbit of body health food.
    As it is usually cheaper to buy and cook your own food than eat at any establishment so I don't think any of this follows.

    However it does take time to shop around.

    You can always find time to do what you want to do.

    Indulge in a bit of planning.

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    Planning, patience and invesigation nto healthy food by members of American society? I think not.

    Food safety advocates have criticized the FDA for allowing meat manufacturers to use carbon monoxide gas mixtures during the packaging process to prevent discoloration of meat. This discoloration is an important indicator that the meat is spoiling due to bacterial growth. The United States is the only country that allows this technology. Such technology has been banned in Europe [3]. Food safety critics have suggested that the powerful agricultural lobby has used its political power to influence the FDA's approval of this process.

    A second criticism that food safety advocates have made against the FDA has involved their approval of certain coal tar derived food dyes such as FDC yellow 5 and 6 which are banned in most European countries. There are concerns about carcinogenicity of these food colors [4].

    A third criticism of FDA food safety regulations has involved the lax pesticide regulations in the United States agricultural products.

    A fourth important criticism of FDA food safety regulations has involved the FDA approval of the use of bovine growth hormone in dairy cows. This hormone increases milk production in cows but critics have pointed out that there was a surplus of milk production even before the use of bovine growth hormone. There is some evidence that BGH increases levels of IGF-1 in cow milk which can promote the growth of cancers in humans [5].

    A fifth important criticism of FDA food safety regulations has involved the use of growth enhancing agents in cows which includes the use of antibiotics. The use of antibiotics are believed to be the primary cause for the development of antibiotic resistant strains of bacteria which pose a real threat to mankind [6] .
    "Nickelback in Portugal"

    C. Kroeger - "Do you guys wanna hear some rock and
    roll, or should we just go home?
    {fan throws rock, hits Kroeger in head}
    C. Kroeger - "see ya"

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    why do some many girls ahve eating disorders.

    because the media have this image of every women being a size 00.
    also the fact that the sizes of celes waists are becoming smaller everyday.

    look at nicole ritchie,victoria beckham(wife of soccer player david beckham),lindsay lohan.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lady x View Post
    why do some many girls ahve eating disorders.

    because the media have this image of every women being a size 00.
    also the fact that the sizes of celes waists are becoming smaller everyday.

    look at nicole ritchie,victoria beckham(wife of soccer player david beckham),lindsay lohan.
    They do and the media have a lot to answer for as does the fashion industry.

    Personally I find 'stick insects' to be most unattractive

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    Like Stephen Colbert says: "Girls, if we can't see your ribs, it means you're ugly."
    Eh, what's this? A Republican from Texas that actually makes sense and can speak English?

    http://www.ronpaul2008.com/html/Issues_fx.html

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    We shouldn't be so hard on US residents. The food supply here is abysmal, even organic food doesn't have enough nutrition to sustain human life - so it's no wonder people eat until they are obese. It's a dismal picture.

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    Hi SubtleRedFlag,
    Agree with you that TV programs are loaded with weight loss commercials and not only America is facing this problems but obesity is globally problem. We must exercise daily and follow healthy/balanced diet plan to lose and maintain body weight and to prevent ourselves from obesity, depression, cardiovascular disease, cancer and diabetes.
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    Last edited by Spencer; 10-13-2012 at 02:19 AM.
    Spencer

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