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    Ex-gays or not

    Can ex-gays really become heterosexual?

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    Why else would they be called "ex-" gays?
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    There are only two options either they were only pretanding to be gay in the first place or they are pretending not to be gay after the said cure. Then again who knows if they want to try and change its their lives if they want to put themselves through torture it really is non of my business.
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    Personally, I think it's more that most of these treated "homosexuals" were actually heterosexuals and they simply suppresse half of their sexuality.

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    Or maybe they're just bisexual's who prefered one sex, then found a partner of the other?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Matthew S
    There are only two options either they were only pretanding to be gay in the first place or they are pretending not to be gay after the said cure. Then again who knows if they want to try and change its their lives if they want to put themselves through torture it really is non of my business.
    Actually, there are 3 total options:
    1. They're celibate. They're still gay. They just aren't doing anything about it.
    2. They're bi and always have been. Now, they just restrict themselves to the straight end of the sexuality spectrum.
    3. They're gay and playing straight.

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    In grade 12 i took sociology and family relations, and the teacher told us of a Doctor, i can't remember his name, who was actually treating gays. These Homosexuals would go to this Doctor and the Doctor was able to turn them straight. However, he had to stop his practice because people where harassing him about it, even though these people where going to him willingly.
    I wish i could remember his name, but thats besides the point, the point is they went from homo to hetro
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    No, the point is that they allegedly did.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Evan
    In grade 12 i took sociology and family relations, and the teacher told us of a Doctor, i can't remember his name, who was actually treating gays. These Homosexuals would go to this Doctor and the Doctor was able to turn them straight. However, he had to stop his practice because people where harassing him about it, even though these people where going to him willingly.
    I wish i could remember his name, but thats besides the point, the point is they went from homo to hetro

    The problem with the 'ex-gay' is that there is 1) a very high level of revitism amoung them, and 2) an extremely high level of suicide amoung them.

    In addition, manh of the 'ex-gay' memeber are found to lead double lives, and never actually leave their homosexual behavior behind. One amusing example is when two of the founding members of an 'ex-gay' group got togather, and left the 'ex-gay' group to live with each other.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dzeron
    Why else would they be called "ex-" gays?
    Rather interesting how they label themselves as "ex"-gays, eh...

    I mean, if a guy converted from Baptist to Lutheran, he wouldn't call himself an "ex-Baptist". He'ld call himself a Lutheran.

    But "ex-gays" refer to themselves as "ex-gays", whereas it would make more sense to refer to themselves as "straight" or some other synonym.


    Or perhaps it's a move similar to "alcoholics", who label themselves as "alcoholics" even if they've been sober for years. The analogy being that "ex-gays" still have attraction towards people of the same gender, thus not being truly "straight" in their sexual attractions...
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    If we're going to talk about changing gay people to straight people, maybe we should examine the MEANS by which they attempt it...

    Does any of this sound like it would work?

    People don't seem to realize that a LOT of these "reparative therapy" groups have little to no professional psychiatric training. Many of these organizations have no accreditation, and operate under thoroughly rejected psychiatric assumptions.

    "Love in Action is not licensed by the Tennessee Departments of Health, Mental Health, Human Services, Child Services or Education, according to Rachel Lassiter of Gov. Phil Bredesen’s communications office.
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    He (Peterson Toscano) said that the program, which cost $950 per month, was highly restrictive. While he was in the program he was forbidden to go to most parts of Memphis, could not touch other men and had to submit to lengthy meetings where participants criticized each other over the ways that they appeared to be gay. Clients at Love in Action had to describe their sexual fantasies and deviant behaviors in front of groups so that they would be shamed, Toscano said."
    http://www.washblade.com/2005/6-24/n.../tennprobe.cfm

    Other whacky ideas they utilize?

    "On Paula Zahn’s CNN show tonight, Richard Cohen demonstrates key aspects of the reparative therapy he practices.

    He sits upright on a sofa, his client sprawls lengthwise for a close chest-to-chest embrace. The reporter does a sanity-check, asking the client if he feels aroused. Nope, just safe.

    Cohen, saying that another key technique is designed to release memories embedded deeply in one’s muscles, raises a tennis racquet above his head and bashes a pillow once for each word he screams at his mother."
    http://atb.opho.org/atb/


    "Defeat Will Make Some Straight Men Crave Gay Sex
    “Non-homosexual men who experience defeat and failure may also experience homosexual fantasies or dreams.” (Dr. Joseph Nicolosi, National Association of Research and Therapy of Homosexuality)

    The Rubber Band Technique
    “Every time you catch yourself watching someone erotically or engaging in fantasy, snap the band. This will cause a moderate stinging pain, which serves as a shocking reminder of what you are doing. This should help you interrupt the spell.” (Bill Consiglio, Author, "Homosexual No More")

    Playing Sports Will Make You Hetero
    "I recently counseled a fifty-year old man who carried a heavy burden since he was twelve. He thought that he had no eye-hand coordination, could not throw a ball, and therefore was less than the other boys and less than a man. I paired him up with a friend of mine who was willing to play ball with him. Within a few days, a new man was born. He could throw a ball. He just needed some practice and a sympathetic man to show him the ropes." (Richard Cohen, President, Parents and Friends of Ex-Gays)

    Prozac Can Cure Homosexuality
    “When we consider that there is no objective distinction between homosexuality and the other perversions, we can easily see how the development of the homosexual ‘habit’ fits into this framework (of cures through medication). Some [homosexuals]…are being successfully treated with Prozac. Here too, sexual reorientation is reported to have occurred incidentally.” (Dr. Jeffrey Satinover , M.D., Author)

    Prayer and Faith Cures AIDS
    “Today, with God’s abundant grace, and His miraculous power to heal, I walk totally free from the AIDS virus.” (Michael Lumberger, Exodus)

    "Matthew was delivered from homosexuality in 1989 and miraculously healed from HIV/AIDS in 1994." (Mathew C. Manning's web-site http://www.matthewcmanning.com/)

    ** Note: Exodus Executive Director Alan Chamber's also believes that AIDS can be cured through prayer. When asked about Manning's supposed healing he told me, "God is bigger than science.

    Trouble in Mom's Womb Can Make You Gay
    “If a mother was experiencing difficulty in her relationship with her husband while carrying a child or if she felt rejected, unloved or unwanted by him or she experienced any other painful experiences during pregnancy, the unborn child within may have experienced these thoughts and feelings as though they were directed at him or her.” (Richard Cohen, President, Parents and Friends of Ex-Gays)

    Hypnosis Can Make You Hetero
    “At the count of three, your subconscious mind will make you aware of the cause of your homosexual behavior…You need to form in your mind the event you have been looking for whether it was created in this or a previous lifetime…Your soul records are available to you on this issue. You learn from the past and move on!”(Potentials Unlimited, “Gay and Unhappy”, A Self-Hypnotic Tape)

    Focusing on a Tree Will Help Make You Hetero
    “I would start to experience a sexual response… So I would look out my car window and say something like, ‘Gosh, Lord, there’s a tree out there! That tree is green, and has leaves on it. It’s got brown bark.’ I would fix my mind on anything to distract myself…Over time, that made me mentally disciplined enough to displace all lesbian thoughts, period.”(Anne Paulk, Co-Author, "Love Won Out")

    Many of the Best Christians Are Mentally Ill
    “Many of these persons – having suffered breakdowns and hospitalizations in the past – end up being the strongest and most effective Christians because, having been under such bondage to the voices of the past and present, they gladly listen for the life-giving Word in order to survive as persons.” (LeAnne Payne, Author, "The Broken Image")

    Gaining Weight Will Help Make You Hetero
    “My weight started to increase, and I found little desire to keep on a strict diet and stay fashionably slim. My very appearance was changing. I was looking less and less gay. And I was perfectly happy about it.”(John Paulk, Spokesperson, Focus on the Family) "
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    ex-gay? never met anyone claiming that.
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    There are some, esp. within religious reform groups...

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    Quote Originally Posted by CUNxTime View Post
    There are some, esp. within religious reform groups...
    how about half gay...half straight or three quarters gay...one quarter straight

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    LOL, there probably are some people who claim that... I was just answering Iron, about 'ex-gay' I think they call themselves 'reformed homosexuals' or 'reborn' etc... Maybe with fertility treatments some people will be born, half gay, 1/16 native American, 1/8 lesbian, etc...

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