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    THE FALSE CLAIMS of new and old atheists.

    Exploding the False Claims of the New Atheists

    Anne Barbeau Gardiner

    Anne Barbeau Gardiner, a Contributing Editor of the NOR, is Professor Emerita of English at John Jay College of the City University of New York. She has published on Dryden, Milton, and Swift, as well as on Catholics of the 17th century.




    In The Irrational Atheist, WorldNetDaily.com columnist Vox Day uses logic and facts (not theology) to refute the "unholy trinity" of Richard Dawkins, Sam Harris, and Christopher Hitchens. What makes Day's book entertaining is his exuberant language -- the rhetorical fireworks with which he takes on the new atheists. High spirits and clever phrasing provoke continual chuckles, as for example when he remarks that not since the craze for Marx and Freud "has there been so much enthusiasm about the non-existence of God," and that this new evangelism is directed at "atheists whose lack of faith is weak." He employs mock praise, too, as in, "Hitchens and Dawkins became atheists after long and exhaustive rational inquiries into the existence of God, both at the age of nine." Yet the humor doesn't get in the way of subtle analysis, for he lays bare Dawkins's "incessant shell games," Harris's "exercises in self-parody," and Hitchens's "epic feat of intellectual self-evisceration."

    Day divides atheists into high-church and low-church varieties. The "unholy trinity" belong to the high-church type -- i.e., they are university men who hate religion and demand that others enlist in their "anti-theist jihads." The low-church atheists describe themselves simply as of "no religion." In reply to the high-church boast that atheists are more moral than theists, Day points out that, while it is true that high-church atheists comprised only two-tenths of one percent of the criminals imprisoned in England and Wales in the year 2000, the low-church type made up 31.6 percent. Measured against their ratio in the overall population, this meant that atheists were four times more likely to go to jail for crimes than Christians. This is a sample of how Day explodes the false claims of the new atheists.

    Perhaps the most engaging chapters in this book are those about war. The high-church atheists assert that religion causes war, but Day proves otherwise. He shows that over the past 232 years, 671,070 American soldiers have died in 17 wars, of which only one-half of one percent can reasonably be attributed to religion. This amounts to the deaths of 14 soldiers per year. Turning next to the Encyclopedia of Wars compiled by C. Phillips and A. Axelrod, Day examines 1,763 wars fought from 2325 B.C. to modern times. Of these wars, only 123 can reasonably be attributed to religion -- 6.92 percent of those recorded. Since half of these religious wars were waged by Muslims, this means that, apart from Islam, the world's religions are responsible for only 3.35 percent of all wars. "The historical evidence is conclusive," Day concludes. "Religion is not a primary cause of war."

    Here is yet another glimpse of how Day uses facts to confute the "unholy trinity." Whereas Dawkins declares that atheists have the highest regard for works of art and architecture and not one of them in the world who would "bulldoze" places like Mecca, Chartres, or York MinXster, Day replies with staggering evidence that atheists are far more likely than theists to destroy the landmarks of civilization, as when they razed 41,000 of the 48,000 churches in Russia, and 7,000 of the monasteries in Tibet.

    Although Day is an evangelical, he is remarkably sympathetic to Catholics, who are usually the chief targets of atheists. Day scoffs at the way Dawkins, in the space of a couple of pages, dismisses the 3,000-page Summa Theologiae of St. Thomas Aquinas: He says that Dawkins waved "a dead chicken over the keyboard" and tried to make readers believe he had "seriously considered" the SumXma and found it "wanting." Day also thinks it unfair that the Spanish Inquisition is ballyhooed as the high point of human wickedness. He points out that the Great Leap Forward and the Holocaust, both caused by atheists, resulted in 43 million and 6 million deaths respectively, whereas the Spanish Inquisition resulted in 3,230 deaths in three and a half centuries. And then, in the single year of 1936, Spanish atheists murdered 6,832 members of the Catholic clergy -- "more than twice the number of the victims of 345 years of inquisition." Summing up, Day reveals that 52 atheist rulers in the 20th century, from 1917 to 2007, were responsible for a body count of around 148 million dead -- "three times more than all the human beings killed by war, civil war and individual crime in the entire 20th century." And so it turns out that "the average atheist crime against humanity" is "18.3 million percent worse than the very worst depredation committed by Christians." To support these powerful refutations, Day offers footnotes on virtually every page.

    The "unholy trinity" are fond of saying that religion and science are incompatible, but Day shows that they have been compatible for centuries, both before and after the Galileo incident, which he sees as exaggerated by the Church's enemies. The enemies of religion prefer to forget that, in 1794, revolutionary atheists inspired by the Enlightenment beheaded Antoine Lavoisier, the father of modern chemistry.

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    Quote Originally Posted by manolete View Post
    Exploding the False Claims of the New Atheists

    Anne Barbeau Gardiner

    Anne Barbeau Gardiner, a Contributing Editor of the NOR, is Professor Emerita of English at John Jay College of the City University of New York. She has published on Dryden, Milton, and Swift, as well as on Catholics of the 17th century.




    In The Irrational Atheist, WorldNetDaily.com columnist Vox Day uses logic and facts (not theology) to refute the "unholy trinity" of Richard Dawkins, Sam Harris, and Christopher Hitchens. What makes Day's book entertaining is his exuberant language -- the rhetorical fireworks with which he takes on the new atheists. High spirits and clever phrasing provoke continual chuckles, as for example when he remarks that not since the craze for Marx and Freud "has there been so much enthusiasm about the non-existence of God," and that this new evangelism is directed at "atheists whose lack of faith is weak." He employs mock praise, too, as in, "Hitchens and Dawkins became atheists after long and exhaustive rational inquiries into the existence of God, both at the age of nine." Yet the humor doesn't get in the way of subtle analysis, for he lays bare Dawkins's "incessant shell games," Harris's "exercises in self-parody," and Hitchens's "epic feat of intellectual self-evisceration."

    Day divides atheists into high-church and low-church varieties. The "unholy trinity" belong to the high-church type -- i.e., they are university men who hate religion and demand that others enlist in their "anti-theist jihads." The low-church atheists describe themselves simply as of "no religion." In reply to the high-church boast that atheists are more moral than theists, Day points out that, while it is true that high-church atheists comprised only two-tenths of one percent of the criminals imprisoned in England and Wales in the year 2000, the low-church type made up 31.6 percent. Measured against their ratio in the overall population, this meant that atheists were four times more likely to go to jail for crimes than Christians. This is a sample of how Day explodes the false claims of the new atheists.

    Perhaps the most engaging chapters in this book are those about war. The high-church atheists assert that religion causes war, but Day proves otherwise. He shows that over the past 232 years, 671,070 American soldiers have died in 17 wars, of which only one-half of one percent can reasonably be attributed to religion. This amounts to the deaths of 14 soldiers per year. Turning next to the Encyclopedia of Wars compiled by C. Phillips and A. Axelrod, Day examines 1,763 wars fought from 2325 B.C. to modern times. Of these wars, only 123 can reasonably be attributed to religion -- 6.92 percent of those recorded. Since half of these religious wars were waged by Muslims, this means that, apart from Islam, the world's religions are responsible for only 3.35 percent of all wars. "The historical evidence is conclusive," Day concludes. "Religion is not a primary cause of war."

    Here is yet another glimpse of how Day uses facts to confute the "unholy trinity." Whereas Dawkins declares that atheists have the highest regard for works of art and architecture and not one of them in the world who would "bulldoze" places like Mecca, Chartres, or York MinXster, Day replies with staggering evidence that atheists are far more likely than theists to destroy the landmarks of civilization, as when they razed 41,000 of the 48,000 churches in Russia, and 7,000 of the monasteries in Tibet.

    Although Day is an evangelical, he is remarkably sympathetic to Catholics, who are usually the chief targets of atheists. Day scoffs at the way Dawkins, in the space of a couple of pages, dismisses the 3,000-page Summa Theologiae of St. Thomas Aquinas: He says that Dawkins waved "a dead chicken over the keyboard" and tried to make readers believe he had "seriously considered" the SumXma and found it "wanting." Day also thinks it unfair that the Spanish Inquisition is ballyhooed as the high point of human wickedness. He points out that the Great Leap Forward and the Holocaust, both caused by atheists, resulted in 43 million and 6 million deaths respectively, whereas the Spanish Inquisition resulted in 3,230 deaths in three and a half centuries. And then, in the single year of 1936, Spanish atheists murdered 6,832 members of the Catholic clergy -- "more than twice the number of the victims of 345 years of inquisition." Summing up, Day reveals that 52 atheist rulers in the 20th century, from 1917 to 2007, were responsible for a body count of around 148 million dead -- "three times more than all the human beings killed by war, civil war and individual crime in the entire 20th century." And so it turns out that "the average atheist crime against humanity" is "18.3 million percent worse than the very worst depredation committed by Christians." To support these powerful refutations, Day offers footnotes on virtually every page.

    The "unholy trinity" are fond of saying that religion and science are incompatible, but Day shows that they have been compatible for centuries, both before and after the Galileo incident, which he sees as exaggerated by the Church's enemies. The enemies of religion prefer to forget that, in 1794, revolutionary atheists inspired by the Enlightenment beheaded Antoine Lavoisier, the father of modern chemistry.
    Is this guy incapable of putting together even one logical thought on his own? I mean seriously, one of the very few representatives of the religious variety remaining on this site is making the majority of them look, aside from the simply delusional mindset not necessarily connected to a lack of intelligence, just plain ol' stupid.
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    Quote Originally Posted by manolete View Post

    The "unholy trinity" are fond of saying that religion and science are incompatible, but Day shows that they have been compatible for centuries, both before and after the Galileo incident, which he sees as exaggerated by the Church's enemies. The enemies of religion prefer to forget that, in 1794, revolutionary atheists inspired by the Enlightenment beheaded Antoine Lavoisier, the father of modern chemistry.

    You do realize that close to 100% of France was Christian at the start of the French Revolution?? It was not about atheism, it was about using reason in an ever increasingly scientific world to abandon long held tradition that was becoming so obsolete as to not be ignored as anything other than ludicrous. Unfortunately, we still live in a world where people actually believe the day dreams of ancient thinkers who had little or no knowledge of anything beyond what was visible with the naked eye and a crude understanding of the way the world works. You STILL cling to the ideas of a select few of them, even though countless others had equally viable ideas, though equally ludicrous today. And even fewer had ideas that still hold up today, but you choose to ignore reality in favor of what YOUR parents taught you. I think a huge measure of intelligence is shown in the ability to disregard what you are hardwired as a child to believe in favor of a better way of thinking. You need to rethink your primitive ideology, stop being so arrogant as to assert that your ideas, without one lick of evidence, are better than others', and for god sake, form your own opinions with your own words.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Databed View Post
    You do realize that close to 100% of France was Christian at the start of the French Revolution?? It was not about atheism, it was about using reason in an ever increasingly scientific world to abandon long held tradition that was becoming so obsolete as to not be ignored as anything other than ludicrous. Unfortunately, we still live in a world where people actually believe the day dreams of ancient thinkers who had little or no knowledge of anything beyond what was visible with the naked eye and a crude understanding of the way the world works. You STILL cling to the ideas of a select few of them, even though countless others had equally viable ideas, though equally ludicrous today. And even fewer had ideas that still hold up today, but you choose to ignore reality in favor of what YOUR parents taught you. I think a huge measure of intelligence is shown in the ability to disregard what you are hardwired as a child to believe in favor of a better way of thinking. You need to rethink your primitive ideology, stop being so arrogant as to assert that your ideas, without one lick of evidence, are better than others', and for god sake, form your own opinions with your own words.
    Interesting how in the aftermath of the french revolution the government had to strongly reinvite the clergy back to france and reinstate christianity?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Databed View Post
    Is this guy incapable of putting together even one logical thought on his own?
    Yes...he is incapable. Most of the dozens of threads that he has started he has plagiarised from sites that are as ignorant as he is. He a coward who crapped his pants when I challenged him to a one-to-one debate. Nor has he defended any of his threads he spams the board with when challenged on the claims within them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by manolete View Post
    The low-church atheists describe themselves simply as of "no religion." In reply to the high-church boast that atheists are more moral than theists, Day points out that, while it is true that high-church atheists comprised only two-tenths of one percent of the criminals imprisoned in England and Wales in the year 2000, the low-church type made up 31.6 percent. Measured against their ratio in the overall population, this meant that atheists were four times more likely to go to jail for crimes than Christians. This is a sample of how Day explodes the false claims of the new atheists.
    I think that the division into High-Church and low-church is pretty much nonsense. An atheist is an atheist.

    I also think that the numbers given are somehow skewed to favor the mythology of religion. In the US, the prison population is overwhelmingly religious - somewhere in the upper 90%. According to the Federal Bureau of Prisons, 80.001% of prisoners are Christian of some sort. Only 0.209% are atheists. A 2013 report from the federal bureau of prisons reported that only 0.07% of federal prisoners are atheists. Apparently the author of the cited book didn't consult the federal bureau of prisons.
    From The Treaty of Tripoli, Art. 11, negociated under Washington, passed unanimously by the senate, and signed by Adams -- "As the Government of the United States of America is not, in any sense, founded on the Christian religion;"

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    Religion of Athiests

    Did You know that , Roman Catholics SHARE some Claims of - The Atheist FAITH ?

    The FACTS Is / --- ROMAN Catholics SHARE some Athiest Ideas and FEELINGS.

    Roman Catholics, Are FULLY Supporting Some of The ATHIEST Views.

    For Example , The CATHOLIC ENC (Vol. 10, page 184). Demands that """ "The Bible as a literary work had traditions that included myth" CATHOLIC ENC (Vol. 10, page 184).

    And The CATHOLIC ENC (Vol. 10, page 184).-- """"Some of the miracles recorded in Holy Scripture may be fictional and include imaginative literary exaggerations.

    Also The episode of Noe and the Ark is imaginative literary CATHOLIC ENC (Vol. 9, page 887).

    And The Gospels are not biographies of Jesus and still less scientific history" (Vol. 12, page 403).

    From CHRISTIAN NEWS, 7/2/90... Excerpts from NEW JEROME BIBLE COMMENTARY (this has the Imprimatur of Lawrence Cardinal Shehan. Augustin Cardinal Bea is the author of the commentary's forward).

    1. The Bible contains fiction.
    2. Moses did not write the first five books of the Bible. These books came from the J-E-D and P sources centuries after Moses died.

    3. The Bible does not predict the coming of the Messiah Jesus Christ.
    4. Joshua's account of the destruction of Jericho is fiction.

    5. Isaiah did not write Chapters 40-66 of the Book of Isaiah.
    6. Isaiah did not predict the coming of Jesus Christ, that he would be born of a virgin , and suffer and die for the sins of all men.

    7. The Old Testament does not teach any resurrection from the dead. St. Jerome was wrong when he said Job 19:26 referred to Jesus and the resurrection.
    8. The Sixth century B.C. prophet Daniel did not write the Book of Daniel.

    9. The Book of Daniel contains errors and fiction.
    10. Psalm 16:10 does not refer to the resurrection of Christ.

    11. The Books of Ruth, Jonah and Esther are fiction.
    12. The Book of Matthew contains fiction.

    13. The Ascension of Christ may not be historical.
    14. Three thousand were not converted at Pentecost.

    15. Paul did not write Colossians, Ephesians, I and II Timothy and Titus.
    16. The Bible is not the inspired and inerrant Word of God.

    17. Genesis is not historical.
    18. Man and the universe gradually evolved from some primary substance.

    19. Christian doctrine gradually evolved. The Biblical view of God changed.
    20. The Bible contains mythology.

    21. The Biblical story of Noah's flood is a myth.
    22. Man does not know who the historical Jesus really was.


    Folks .... This is what the Translator of the VERY, VERY First Catholic Italian / Latin bible Translation, - believed.

    His name was JEROME. The Catholic Church Produced its VERY, VERY First Latin Bible Translation /---- nearly 500 years after jESUS.

    The Bible is NOT and NEVER was ---- a very Important part- of Roman Catholicism..... They Dont Advertise the ORIGIONAL Translation because it has so many TRANSLATION Errors and Twisted Translated Verses.


    REMEMBER, Rome Outlawed the Christians and Killed, tortured and Persecuted them UNDER Nero and Continued UNDER other ROMAN / Italian - Emperors.

    they Tried their BEST to Destroy all the Hebrew and Greek teXts and Christian Writings around them,

    THEN - The Roman Catholic Church did not Even Produce a Latin / Italian Translation of the Scriptures Untill 500 Years after jESUS Christ.

    And Then, the Roman Catholic Church, Refused to Translate the Bible into ANY OTHER Language, For another One Thousand and Two Hundred Years.

    Twelve Hundred Years. The Catholic Church OUTLAWED the Scriptures in ANY Other LANGUAGE...

    But Italian ALONE...........


    So Think........... 500 Years Went By, .........From the Time of jESUS Christ / That the .... Catholic Church Failed ( REFUSED ) -

    to Translate a Latin / Italian Version the Scriptures.

    *( That's Because - the Catholic Church Did not eXist until the 3 Rd Century

    Then a TOTAL of 1600 years. 1600 Years / One Thousand 600 Years -

    from the Time of jESUS Christ, to the First Catholic Bible, Translated into another Language other than Latin / Italian

    In 1582 The Roman Catholic Church Translated The Douay–Rheims Bible into English. *( Copying the KJV, ALMOST Identical.

    Why did the Roman Catholic Church wait for One Thousand and Six Hundred Years after jESUS Christ. 1600 Years...

    to Make a NON Latin / Italian - Translation of the Bible ?

    1600 Years.... SOMETHING Seems Very Wrong.
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    Religion of Athiests


    I am jUST Saying. That the Enemies of the Scripture and Christianity are the Enemy Within. PRETENDING to Love the bible and its Characters.

    They Deny their Original Character and Personality and eXistance. AND PROP them UP as Some one Else.....

    REMEMBER.... The Catholic Church Also Banns Birth Control, For Which There is NO Scriptural Reason to Do. It is a Good Medical Scientific practice.

    Birth Control, Harms No One. Causes No Problems. But Only Helps Christians to Live a Loving, Fruitful Life. In a World with Over Population.

    I believe that the Roman Catholic Church is STILL at War with the Galileo's of the World. And MAKES Up its DOCTRINE, Simply to Manipulate People.


    In 1633 Galileo discovered Mountians on the Moon and the earth revolving around the Sun. CANT POST THE LINK

    He WAS TRIED and Convicted by the CATHOLIC CHURCH Inquisition for affirming a compatibility between science and the Bible.

    Galileo WAS PLACED ON trial by the CATHOLIC CHURCH Inquisition and found guilty of EVIL, SATANIC heresy and they sentenced this Great man to prison, - FOR HIS remaining LIFE.

    Threatening His Life and His Friends. Burning All His Work they Could find,. != His Life was Destroyed for Making Truthfull Findings, that Contradicted the IDEOLOGY of the Roman Catholic Church,

    Bruno, Giordano (1548. ANOTHER GREAT scientist, the CATHOLIC church burnt HIM ALIVE at the stake. .he wrote Of Units, Quantity, ShapeS, Images, and Ideas -- AS BEING Immense & Innumerable.

    Nicolas Copernicus (1473 Founder of modern astronomy HIS GREAT BOOK De Revolutionibus WAS BANNED and Burned, BY THE CATHOLIC CHURCH

    1400 AD,,, Pope Boniface VIII issued a decree forbidding the dissection of human corpses for anatomical study AND SCIENCE.

    Andreas Vesalius, WROTE A GREAT book of 1543, On Structures of the Human Body, provided the first reliable information on human anatomy ever compiled. he was persecuted by THE CATHOLIC CHURCH HE wandered RUNNING from country FOR HIS LIFE

    The idea that the earth goes round the sun was explicitly prohibited / Copernican theory remained on the Index until 1835.

    The Catholic CHURCH --- now believes that the earth may in fact, go round the sun !

    Joseph Addison 1719) Great writer of books SUCH AS "Tragedy" Based on Freedom & government responsibility. Individual liberty vs. government tyranny..

    HIS GREAT BOOKS BANNED by the catholic church ===--- AS EVIL & WICKED.

    Francis Bacon 1561 Known as a catalyst of the scientific revolution. HIS GREAT BOOKS BANNED by the catholic church AS EVIL & WICKED.

    CATHOLIC Book burnings OF Bibles were common IN 1521. The Bible and Translators and publishers themselves were also burned.

    Possession of Bibles became criminal offenses and execution of the accused.

    The Geneva Bible 1560 WAS BANNED & outlawed BY THE ROMAN CATHOLIC CHURCH. Visit CANT POST THE LINK -- TODAY to buy an original TRANSLATION of the GREAT Geneva Bible..THE WORD OF GOD

    The Bishops Bible (1568... GODS WORD WAS BURNED & OUTLAWED BY THE CATHOLIC church study here. [U]CANT POST THE LINK[/U


    William Tyndale TRANSLATED THE 1 ST...ENGLISH BIBLE. HE was HUNTED DOWN BY THE CATHOLIC CHURCH. CATHOLIC arrested by Cardinal Wolsey/. He spent over a year in jail, was strangled & burned at the stake
    DOC.... CANT POST THE LINK

    I don't Pretend that Roman Catholicism is Anything but the Other Hand of Atheist PROPAGANDA. That takes the TRUTH, DENIES the TRUTH.

    and Then Re- Packages - the INFORMATION, To Gain the Upper Hand of Power and Control its Slavish Like, Ignorant Masses of People who are Trained to HATE the Truth. Deny the Bible and Suppress and Attack others who tell of these Facts.


    Roman Catholicism Has Harmed the Christian World and its Scriptures, More than any Atheist would Even Want to Try.,


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    Ill Make an End of My Posts, For Now and Let Others take a turn to Post.

    Thank You and PLEASE Look at My PROFILE and Visit My WEBSITE > Listed as HOMEPAGE.

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    Idiot troll is back then.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tim the plumber View Post
    Idiot troll is back then.
    Yep...and thinks that if he writes in large bold text, nobody will notice!! LOL!


    ...and who the hell is "Noe" anyway??? Apparently he has an Ark!!
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    REMEMBER that Even Atheists Can be Good Friends with jEWS and Christians.

    Just on the Basis of Principle and Other Realities. Many Atheists Support Israel as well. I have Had many, Many Atheist Friends.

    Many Atheists are in the US Military too. They are fighting the Same fight as Christians and jEWS.

    I would Like to REMIND You a little about History .

    In the 1930 s =----- The Military World of ISLAM was Completely Crushed by the British forces . MAINLY because of the Piracy, Murder, Rape and War that Muslims had been conducting on the Seas and other Places. This had Been Ongoing for the Last 100 Years.

    The jEWISH peoples around the world Finally Were able to come back to their Homeland after WW ll- They Came back ( RETURNING TO their HOMELAND. )

    from all around the Planet and the Muslim World went Insane.

    Vows and Islamic Prophecies - and - Promises and Threats were made by Islamic Leaders and Warriors, to eXterminate the jEWS and Drive them into the SEA. and Finish them Off.

    I dont think that the Middle Eastern Islamic World has Proved to anyone But their Selves, that they are ready or willing to have Peace with any NON Muslims.

    Muslims do not even have Peace among themselves. They are still fighting Religious Wars between themselves. They Fight Every Year, in Stupid little Wars over such Small matters.

    ooOH, Gee is Mohammed Returning in the Camel Skin Underwear or the Goat Skin underwear.

    The Catholic Church itself Launched Massive WARS against These ENVADING Muslims. The Roman and Greek Empires, EVEN Before Christ, Were in Massive Wars With the Arabs and Persians.

    The British Also Launched Massive Wars against the Muslims.

    The French as well Fought against the Muslims.

    The lust for Islamic Control and POWER and conquest, stretched from France to the Philippines,

    from Austria to Nigeria, and from central Asia to New Guinea.

    The Usa Has Killed Thousands and Thousands. of Islamic Soldiers and even Causalities of War *( Innocent Islamic Civillians ) have Been Killed.

    We are Still Planning a Possible /--- Future Military Action against Islamic Iran.

    Israel Is simply Trying to Live in Peace and Police an insane People who would Destroy their own Civilization and society and own Children, Just to Gain Military Control over the jEWS,

    Please Go to MY Website. You MUST Go to my WEBSITE Please

    Visit My Website NOW..!

    My Website is Undergoing a Maintenance Transition over this Weekend, But I Ask You All. to Go there next Week.

    It is under the HOMEPAGE in my Profile.

    Thank you ..

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    Oh look, he has cut and paste some more crap.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tim the plumber View Post
    Oh look, he has cut and paste some more crap.
    Look on the bright side; at least he's copying and pasting in normal text now. Unfortunately, that hasn't improved his ignorance of history any.
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