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    No boyscouts for you!

    Yep so it seems the Boyscout's organization is maintaining its policy of banning gays from joining up, either as scouts or as scoutmasters. The Supreme Court even ruled that they can because being forced to allow them would violate their 1st amendment rights.

    So to everybody's that affected and enraged by this turn of events too bad. Here's an idea though, instead of pushing for inclusion into the Boyscouts come up with your own organization, maybe something like the Gayscouts.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tabbi View Post
    Yep so it seems the Boyscout's organization is maintaining its policy of banning gays from joining up, either as scouts or as scoutmasters. The Supreme Court even ruled that they can because being forced to allow them would violate their 1st amendment rights.

    So to everybody's that affected and enraged by this turn of events too bad. Here's an idea though, instead of pushing for inclusion into the Boyscouts come up with your own organization, maybe something like the Gayscouts.
    Yea for the Boy Scouts. They did the right thing. Let the Sodomites start their own morally-depraved scout group. Maybe name it the Golden Eagle Rump-Humpers, or something like that.
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    Wow I was sure that a bunch of angry gays would be voicing their outrage here over how I was being insensitive to them being unable to join the Boyscout's organization. Maybe they just realized that they've got better things to do that viciously push to have their lifestyles thrown into the faces of absolutely everyone without exception. Maybe gay people are starting to wise up and mature.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tabbi View Post
    Wow I was sure that a bunch of angry gays would be voicing their outrage here over how I was being insensitive to them being unable to join the Boyscout's organization. Maybe they just realized that they've got better things to do that viciously push to have their lifestyles thrown into the faces of absolutely everyone without exception. Maybe gay people are starting to wise up and mature.
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    Begging nothing, gay people demand that they be included in every organization and have representation everywhere in an effort to try and normalize and mainstream what they do. They don't beg for anything as begging would require humility and weakness in the face of somebody that won't agree with them, instead they make threats, either of violence or litigation.
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    As far as scout leaders are concerned. Would it be sensible to have male adults in charge of teenage girl guides?
    So maybe its best not to have male homosexuals in charge of the potential objects of their desire.
    Bit hard on young gay scouts though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gansao View Post
    As far as scout leaders are concerned. Would it be sensible to have male adults in charge of teenage girl guides?
    So maybe its best not to have male homosexuals in charge of the potential objects of their desire.
    Bit hard on young gay scouts though.
    The don't ask and don't tell. If you wanna be in the scouts but you're gay then keep it a secret instead of flaunting it for everyone to see. You don't get to have your cake and eat it too in any situation, you need to pick and choose what's more important to you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tabbi View Post
    The don't ask and don't tell. If you wanna be in the scouts but you're gay then keep it a secret instead of flaunting it for everyone to see. You don't get to have your cake and eat it too in any situation, you need to pick and choose what's more important to you.
    Dont ask, dont tell seems to work for pedophiles .lol
    It seems that homosexuals dont want to hide their gayness under a bushel anymore.
    Why should a homosexual keep their sexuality secret to join the scouts...or maybe a more cynical question is why would they?

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    It has been a long held and maintained position of my own that homosexualism is not a legitimate difference to use in determining preferential treatment or consideration for one group over another. Sexual interest is too narrow of a category to claim that one lifestyle is different from another. Realistically it is no more unique or special than one who believes women of a Mediterranean heritage are more desirable than women of any other heritage or national identity.

    The Boy Scouts of America are free to determine who to associate and not to associate with. They are under no obligation to allow homosexual individuals into their organization and cannot rightly be forced to include them into the group. The Supreme Court has correctly recognized that forced association under penalty of law for noncompliance is a violation of first amendment protections recognized by the constitution.
    If one cannot have an argument without resorting to hyperbole, name calling and emotional rhetoric, then they have lost the argument from their first post.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gansao View Post
    Why should a homosexual keep their sexuality secret to join the scouts...or maybe a more cynical question is why would they?
    Because some groups have morals and don't want depravity thrown in their faces. A lot of people find homosexuality sinful and distasteful.

    People (especially children) don't need to know which way other people perform sex acts.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Easyrider View Post
    Because some groups have morals and don't want depravity thrown in their faces. A lot of people find homosexuality sinful and distasteful.

    People (especially children) don't need to know which way other people perform sex acts.
    Point taken but what I meant was why should they lie? Denying their sexuality to join the scouts does not stop them being a homosexual and whats more..why would a boy who is sexually attracted to other boys want to join a male scout group and maybe even be a leader?
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    Maybe the scouts and gay membership is an impasse that has no solution, like gay marriages in churches that believe homosexuality to be a sin.
    Gay rights are not parallel to black civil rights and until people accept that there needs to be a different solution it will not be solved.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gansao View Post
    Point taken but what I meant was why should they lie?
    It shouldn't be a matter for discussion in the first place. Normally it's the gays who want to broadcast their gayness to the world. They should keep that to themselves.

    I was in the scouts for years and the topic never came up. Let's keep it that way.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tabbi View Post
    Begging nothing, gay people demand that they be included in every organization and have representation everywhere in an effort to try and normalize and mainstream what they do. They don't beg for anything as begging would require humility and weakness in the face of somebody that won't agree with them, instead they make threats, either of violence or litigation.
    I meant you were begging.

    There are two ways to look at what you state above. Gay people are demanding to be included, which is how you perceive it and the other is gay people's desire to not be excluded because they are gay. Gays rarely become violent and other than litigation which is the process this country employs to settle grievances, what would you have them do?

    Do you a a rational reasonable solution?

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    The homosexual community has indeed made threats of violence against others who do not share their beliefs about equality.

    http://www.4forums.com/political/gay...y-priders.html
    If one cannot have an argument without resorting to hyperbole, name calling and emotional rhetoric, then they have lost the argument from their first post.

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