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    Quote Originally Posted by Tabbi View Post
    And in their effort to prevent a veteran from committing suicide they spent the better part of the night orchestrating with EOD, arrested the man, told him the constitution was pure bull**** and they didn't need a warrant, destroyed his luggage, ransacked his home for seven long hours, killed his fish and basically treated him with as much disregard as you'd expect them to treat an identified terrorist cell.
    Got any back up for your accusations? Link?
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    Quote Originally Posted by sinjin View Post
    Got any back up for your accusations? Link?
    Ask and ye shall receive.

    MILLER: Iraq vet brutalized over guns in D.C. - Washington Times

    When he opened the door, he saw about 25 officers in full body armor and kevlar helmets, carrying M4 assault weapons. SWAT and explosive ordinance disposal teams were on all sides. Streets were barricaded for blocks. “They were prepared to be blown up or attacked,” Sgt. Corrigan remembered. Experienced in combat, he knew how to surrender with the least chance of being hurt. He put his hands over his head and spun around so they could clearly see he was unarmed.

    matt2In the dark, snowy night, the Iraq vet was an easy target. “I looked down at saw 10 jiggly red dots all over my chest,” he said, appearing afraid at the memory. “I crumbled.”

    Out of the corner of his eye, he saw one officer ready to tackle him, so he dropped to his knees and crossed his ankles to demonstrate complete defenselessness.

    “They immediately zip-tied me tighter than I would have been allowed to zip-tie an Iraqi,” Sgt. Corrigan said, pulling up his dress shirt cuff to show his wrist. “We had to check to fit two fingers between the tie and the Iraqi’s wrist so we weren’t cutting off circulation. They tied mine so tight that they hurt.”
    MILLER: SWAT rampage destroys Iraq vet's home over guns - Washington Times

    Although police did not read Sgt. Corrigan his Miranda rights, they questioned him inside the tactical truck. They asked the Iraq veteran basic questions about his life from various angles to get him to admit to owning guns. He remained silent about his two handguns and one rifle, which he had not registered after moving into the city.

    Suddenly a police commander jumped in the truck and demanded to know where Sgt. Corrigan put his house key. He refused.

    “I’m not giving you the key. I’m not giving consent to enter my house,” Sgt. Corrigan recalled saying in an interview with me last week at D.C. Superior Court after the city dropped all 10 charges against him.

    “Then the cop said to me, ‘I don’t have time to play this constitutional XXXXXXXX with you. We’re going to break your door in, and you’re going to have to pay for a new door.’”
    Since Since Sgt. Corrigan refused to permit a search of his house, the police had to break down his door. The cops, however, didn’t bother to wait for a search warrant before doing so. “They were all keyed up because they had been there and ready to go all night,” surmised Sgt. Corrgian’s attorney Richard Gardiner.
    During the “explosive threat clearing efforts,” police reported finding the sergeant’s “hazardous materials,” which included two pistols and a rifle, binoculars and ammunition. The report also details how it took the combined efforts of the police, EOD and the D.C. Fire Department to seize the “military ammunition can that contained numerous fireworks type devices.” These were fireworks left over from the Fourth of July.
    Police Lt. R.T. Glover was pleased with the seven hour operation that resulted in finding three unregistered guns in D.C. In his report to Police Chief Cathy L. Lanier, he concluded that, “as a result of this barricade incident, there are no recommendations for improvement with respect to overall tactical operations.”
    The dry after-action notes from the police following the operation give no clue to the property damage done to Sgt. Corrigan’s home. They tore apart the 900 square foot place.

    Instead of unzipping luggage, the police used knives to cut through and destroy the bags. They dumped over the bookshelves, emptied closets, threw the clothes on the floor.

    In the process, they knocked over the feeding mechanism for the tropical fish in the sergeant’s six-foot long aquarium. When he was finally released from jail two weeks later, all of his expensive pet fish were dead in the tank.

    The guns were seized, along with the locked cases, leaving only broken latches behind. The ammunition, hidden under a sleeping bag in the utility closet, was taken. They broke Sgt. Corrigan’s eyeglasses and left them on the floor. The police turned on the electric stove and never turned it off and left without securing the broken door.

    When Ms. Sommons came back to her home the next day, she looked into Sgt. Corrigan’s apartment. “I was really upset because it was ransacked. It made me lose respect for the police officers involved,” she said, the stepdaughter of a correctional officer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by simone View Post
    Was it a just cause?

    Bellum iustum:
    A heroine is a heroine regardless of her motivation for acting in a heroic way. IMHO a heroine has to put her life on the line to be considered a heroine.

    A just war is any war started by the USA, and doubly so if started by a Republican administration (according to the God given American constitution and the Holy American Bible )

    example of just war: Iraq, a country invaded under false pretences, razed to the ground and their citizens massacred by American WOMDs (American WOMDs are 'just' by definition, and also according to the God given American Constitution and the Holy American Bible )

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    Conclusion: It is wrong to arrest an owner of unregistered weapons, and doubly so if he is an Iraq vet. But it is OK to shoot dead an innocent black teenager because he was wearing a hoodie.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Winston Smith View Post
    Conclusion: It is wrong to arrest an owner of unregistered weapons, and doubly so if he is an Iraq vet. But it is OK to shoot dead an innocent black teenager because he was wearing a hoodie.
    The arrest isn't what I take offense at Dingo, it's their complete destruction of his home and property over a course of seven hours. Read the details about how they caused excessive damage, referred to the constitution as bull**** and didn't even bother to obtain a warrant before storming in to cause mayhem.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Winston Smith View Post
    A just war is any war started by the USA, and doubly so if started by a Republican administration (according to the God given American constitution and the Holy American Bible )
    You flaming liberals mock the Bible, which is why you don't have a clue about right and wrong. Not only that but you don't have the stomach for standing up against evil. Not even a double dose of Viagra could get you yellow-belly cowards to stand tall when it counts. All you know how to do is fight against God and everything that's just and right.

    If you were an American you would have bailed out on George Washington at Valley Forge. Mullets.
    “For the scientist who has lived by his faith in the power of reason, the story ends like a bad dream. He has scaled the mountains of ignorance; he is about to conquer the highest peak; as he pulls himself over the final rock, he is greeted by a band of theologians who have been sitting there for centuries.” - Robert Jastrow

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tabbi View Post
    And in their effort to prevent a veteran from committing suicide they spent the better part of the night orchestrating with EOD, arrested the man, told him the constitution was pure bull**** and they didn't need a warrant, destroyed his luggage, ransacked his home for seven long hours, killed his fish and basically treated him with as much disregard as you'd expect them to treat an identified terrorist cell.
    Yep, thanks to the Patriot Act Police Officers and Authorities are now able to do these sorts of things because people no longer have rights. And if I remember correctly it wasn't a Liberal who passed such a Law....
    "You're too stupid to be saved." -- EasyRider.


    "Is God willing to prevent evil, but not able? Then he is not omnipotent.
    Is he able, but not willing? Then he is malevolent.
    Is he both able and willing? Then whence cometh evil?
    Is he neither able nor willing? Then why call him God?"
    Epicurus

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    Quote Originally Posted by Easyrider View Post
    You flaming liberals mock the Bible, which is why you don't have a clue about right and wrong. Not only that but you don't have the stomach for standing up against evil. Not even a double dose of Viagra could get you yellow-belly cowards to stand tall when it counts. All you know how to do is fight against God and everything that's just and right.
    If you were an American you would have bailed out on George Washington at Valley Forge. Mullets.
    Since you have trouble understanding logic I'll remind you that our U.S. Constitution gives us the right to Mock the Bible. It is afterall just a book of fairy tales and legends, you know, campfire stories of the boogieman to scare fools like you into being good little boys.
    "You're too stupid to be saved." -- EasyRider.


    "Is God willing to prevent evil, but not able? Then he is not omnipotent.
    Is he able, but not willing? Then he is malevolent.
    Is he both able and willing? Then whence cometh evil?
    Is he neither able nor willing? Then why call him God?"
    Epicurus

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    Quote Originally Posted by Xcaliber View Post
    Since you have trouble understanding logic I'll remind you that our U.S. Constitution gives us the right to Mock the Bible. It is afterall just a book of fairy tales and legends, you know, campfire stories of the boogieman to scare fools like you into being good little boys.
    Unfortunately, it doesn't even succeed at that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Xcaliber View Post
    Yep, thanks to the Patriot Act Police Officers and Authorities are now able to do these sorts of things because people no longer have rights. And if I remember correctly it wasn't a Liberal who passed such a Law....
    Now don't even try and lay all of this at the feet of ol' Bushy Bush. He may have signed the patriot act into law, but what liberal democrats actually stood against it? When the house and senate fell to liberal democrat control which of them tried to enact legislation that would kill the patriot act? Which of them voted against extending provisions of the patriot act that were due to expire? What did Obama do to put an end to this civil rights nightmare that was enacted in the name of combating terrorism?

    Put in simple terms not one damn thing. No liberal has come out against the patriot act and its expanded powers, rather they've added to the mess.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tabbi View Post
    Now don't even try and lay all of this at the feet of ol' Bushy Bush. He may have signed the patriot act into law, but what liberal democrats actually stood against it? When the house and senate fell to liberal democrat control which of them tried to enact legislation that would kill the patriot act? Which of them voted against extending provisions of the patriot act that were due to expire? What did Obama do to put an end to this civil rights nightmare that was enacted in the name of combating terrorism?

    Put in simple terms not one damn thing. No liberal has come out against the patriot act and its expanded powers, rather they've added to the mess.
    If my memory serves me correctly, wasn't the Patriot Act rushed through. I don't remember how short a time they were given to review it before voting, but wasn't something like overnight?
    Religion is the placebo of the masses - House.
    If you could reason with religious people, there would be no religious people - House.
    God is an ever receding pocket of scientific ignorance - Neil deGrasse Tyson.
    That which can be asserted without evidence, can be dismissed without evidence. - Christopher Hitchens.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Xcaliber View Post
    Since you have trouble understanding logic I'll remind you that our U.S. Constitution gives us the right to Mock the Bible.
    It also gave you the right to vote for an incompetent, pot smoking, cocaine snorting, dog-munching imbecile named Barack Obama. I think the founding fathers hoped you would have used more wisdom when you do these things.
    “For the scientist who has lived by his faith in the power of reason, the story ends like a bad dream. He has scaled the mountains of ignorance; he is about to conquer the highest peak; as he pulls himself over the final rock, he is greeted by a band of theologians who have been sitting there for centuries.” - Robert Jastrow

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    Quote Originally Posted by Easyrider View Post
    When was there ever a "popular" war that the far left loons embraced?
    World War 2. The last war that we had significant reason to be involved in.
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    Quote Originally Posted by snakespit View Post
    World War 2. The last war that we had significant reason to be involved in.
    I dont know..Korea, first Gulf war and even Vietnam maybe..

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    Quote Originally Posted by gansao View Post
    I dont know..Korea, first Gulf war and even Vietnam maybe..
    OK, Korea...sorta. We in fact created that problem. Instead of liberating the Korean Peninsula at the end of WWII, we stuck our noses in and divided the country with the Soviets, as if we had some "victors right" to decide the fate of the Korean people. Korea and Vietnam were both manifestations of the cold war, which was wholey unnecessary.

    And the first Gulf War...ehhhh...possibly, but we were there only to protect oil interests. If Kuwait didn't have oil, Iraq's invasion would have gone largely unnoticed.
    "Guns don't kill people, people kill people, and monkeys do too (if they have a gun)". -Eddie Izzard

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