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    Cold-Blooded Murder

    Trayvon Martin, 17-years-old, 140 lbs., armed with a bag of Skittles and an Arizona Tea, was gunned down by 250-lb coward armed with a 9mm gun who was stalking Martin, deliberately planning to kill him.

    Thank you, NRA, for arming 250-lb cowards, thank you, Jeb Bush for signing the bill and enabling cowards to take out teens armed with Skittles and iced tea, thank you for exposing the pitiful, miserable state of American manhood.
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    A stunning silence in here about the cold-blooded murder of Trayvon Martin.

    Interesting.
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    All facts are not currently in regarding the shooting of Trayvon by Zimmerman. There is little point to discuss a matter when all details have not yet been disclosed. What is known for certain so far is less than clear.

    The Black Panther organization has currently placed a ten thousand dollar bounty on the head of Zimmerman, which is an open call for vigilante-styled justice that so many decry and associate with an expansion of firearm rights.

    The "stand your ground" law in the state of Florida will not protect Zimmerman in a court of law as the actions as seen do not fall within the protections of the law. If Zimmerman stalked and murdered Trayvon then he was not engaged in a lawful activity, which is a requirement for the law to apply.

    The National Rifle Association did nothing to arm Zimmerman or aid him in his actions in the Trayvon shooting. Anything that happened was a result of his own person and not the fault of anyone else. There is no evidence to suggest Zimmerman even belonged to the National Rifle Association or subscribed to their positions.

    It should also be noted that this is not the first death of a black individual between 2005 and 2012. Why this particular case has received so much attention is questionable when it is only one example of an everyday incident. People of all skin colors and minorities are murdered around the nation every day, it is hardly newsworthy.

    It should also be noted that Zimmerman is hispanic rather than white as initial reports claimed, meaning Zimmerman is a minority member as well.
    Last edited by Xenamnes; 03-27-2012 at 05:05 PM.
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    Hmm no mention of this by the' blacks are victims' brigade.

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    Quote Originally Posted by simone View Post
    A stunning silence in here about the cold-blooded murder of Trayvon Martin.

    Interesting.
    Calling it murder is a bit premature, and demonstrates a stunning lack of knowledge of American jurisprudence.
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    Up it to $100,000 and somebody might take heed. $10,000 is purely show, no bounty hunters would consider it this is entirely political.

    The races of both persons are irrelevant.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Freedom View Post

    The races of both persons are irrelevant.
    It seems they are relevant to many people.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gansao View Post
    It seems they are relevant to many people.
    They are suffering from a form of collectivism known as racism when severe.

    Racism is not just thinking one race is greater than another, it is considering genetic lineage is a significant or relevant factor in morality, politics, character, and society.

    It is philosophically just as evil to think of yourself as worthless because of your genes as it is to think another is worthless. Affirmative action, the response of the media, the president, and the new black panthers to this event are just as surely racism as African slavery.

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    Last edited by Freedom; 03-28-2012 at 12:19 AM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Freedom View Post
    They are suffering from a form of collectivism known as racism when severe.

    Racism is not just thinking one race is greater than another, it is considering genetic lineage is a significant or relevant factor in morality, politics, character, and society.

    It is philosophically just as evil to think of yourself as worthless because of your genes as it is to think another is worthless. Affirmative action, the response of the media, the president, and the new black panthers to this event are just as surely racism as African slavery.

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    Yawn. You said the races of both persons were irrelevant.
    I said that to many people they were relevant.
    Then you posted a reason why they SHOULD NOT be relevant.
    Nice lesson but the fact remains that they are relevant even if Ayn Rand says they shouldnt be

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    Trayvon Martin's Mother Is Trying To Trademark Her Slain Son's Name

    Oh dear.Looks like the dead boys mother is making the best out of the death of her son.....

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    Race possesses no relevance in the discussion of events that have unfolded. Zimmerman is hispanic, Martin is black and that is as far as race goes. There is no hard evidence to support the motion that what happened was racially motivated or a hate crime. So far there is no evidence even to support the claim that what took place was a clear cut act of murder.

    Details are less than clear as this point in time. Currently it cannot even be decided upon which individual was the taller of the two.
    If one cannot have an argument without resorting to hyperbole, name calling and emotional rhetoric, then they have lost the argument from their first post.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Xenamnes View Post
    Race possesses no relevance in the discussion of events that have unfolded. Zimmerman is hispanic, Martin is black and that is as far as race goes. There is no hard evidence to support the motion that what happened was racially motivated or a hate crime. So far there is no evidence even to support the claim that what took place was a clear cut act of murder.

    Details are less than clear as this point in time. Currently it cannot even be decided upon which individual was the taller of the two.
    Race has every relevance to the discussion of the events. It gives the opportunity to one race to accuse the other of racism. It makes the shooting a race hate crime rather than a case of a trigger happy idiot killing another man that may or may not have attacked him.
    It doesnt matter that Zimmerman is hispanic..all that matters is a black man was killed by a non black man and the killer has not been prosecuted.

    Once again race SHOULD not be relevant but it is and no amount of denying that it IS relevant will alter this.
    Note my previous post that links a report of two white men murdered in cold blood by a black man in the same state but has not had accusation by white people of black racism towards white people.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gansao View Post
    Yawn. You said the races of both persons were irrelevant.
    I said that to many people they were relevant.
    Then you posted a reason why they SHOULD NOT be relevant.
    Nice lesson but the fact remains that they are relevant even if Ayn Rand says they shouldnt be
    No they are still irrelevant even if the prevalence of the fallacy is not.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Freedom View Post
    No they are still irrelevant even if the prevalence of the fallacy is not.
    So if you are killed by a man because he hates your race then race is irrelevant?
    It doesnt matter whether its a fallacy or not, race is still relevant...but there again it gives you an opportunity to tell us its not relevant because it is a fallacy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gansao View Post
    So if you are killed by a man because he hates your race then race is irrelevant?
    Correct

    Quote Originally Posted by gansao View Post
    It doesnt matter whether its a fallacy or not, race is still relevant...but there again it gives you an opportunity to tell us its not relevant because it is a fallacy.
    The fallacy is relevant not the race. If you are asked a math question and you come up with the wrong answer, is the numerically wrong value relevant or how you got it? A good teacher will show you your mistake and will not need to consider the wrong answer just the wrong method.
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