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    US to attack Iran?.Here we go again!

    America's itch to brawl now has a new target ? but bombs can't conquer Iran | Simon Jenkins | Comment is free | The Guardian

    Nuclear dissemination is deplorable, but massively overhyped. Warheads cost a fortune to develop and keep in service. Modern anti-western aggression finds it cheaper and more effective to plan terrorist outrages. Nuclear bombs have not made Israel more secure. They have been useless to Pakistan in confronting India, and to North Korea against the south. They did not save apartheid in South Africa, or the Soviet Union from itself


    Is the US really going to attack Iran?

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    According to the Perfect Storm Prophecy guy - John Paul Jackson - Israel will attack Iran.

    Although I wouldn't put it past Iran to THEN attack U.S. ships or interests in the Persian Gulf which might then bring a U.S. response. But the main attack will come from Israel. At least that's the prophecy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by gansao View Post
    America's itch to brawl now has a new target ? but bombs can't conquer Iran | Simon Jenkins | Comment is free | The Guardian

    Nuclear dissemination is deplorable, but massively overhyped. Warheads cost a fortune to develop and keep in service. Modern anti-western aggression finds it cheaper and more effective to plan terrorist outrages. Nuclear bombs have not made Israel more secure. They have been useless to Pakistan in confronting India, and to North Korea against the south. They did not save apartheid in South Africa, or the Soviet Union from itself


    Is the US really going to attack Iran?
    Nuclear warheads are certainly not over-hyped, they can kill millions. People simply aren't willing to use them so they tend to ignore them in power struggles, much like the NATO vs USSR kept building more conventional military hardware even though they could XXXX up anything worth defending.

    There is the possibility that conventional warfare can be carried on without nukes coming from either side, analogous to personal combat in ancient times where two sides really want to fight but they don't want Armageddon.

    India has nuclear weapons and it remains to be seen whether isreals nukes will matter, if they are on the verge of defeat I think you'll change your mind when Cairo or Damascus disappear. Finally to describe U.S. attitude as looking for a brawl is distasteful and disingenuous in the extreme.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Freedom View Post

    India has nuclear weapons and it remains to be seen whether isreals nukes will matter, if they are on the verge of defeat I think you'll change your mind when Cairo or Damascus disappear. Finally to describe U.S. attitude as looking for a brawl is distasteful and disingenuous in the extreme.
    There is a prophecy in Isaiah 17 (note verses 1 and 14 in particular) that prophecy teachers have touched on over the years that says Damascus sill suddenly be destroyed. Verse 14 says, "In the evening sudden terror! Before morning they are gone." I think someday Syria will hit Israel (perhaps even as Israel strikes Iran) and Israel will hammer Damascus.

    There's also the great war of Ezekiel 38-39 coming in the middle east. It might included nukes or biological weapons (see Ezekiel chapter 39, and in particular verses 14 and 15). But Israel will survive it. Israel is one of the great stories of Bible prophecy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Freedom View Post
    Nuclear warheads are certainly not over-hyped, they can kill millions. People simply aren't willing to use them so they tend to ignore them in power struggles, much like the NATO vs USSR kept building more conventional military hardware even though they could XXXX up anything worth defending.

    There is the possibility that conventional warfare can be carried on without nukes coming from either side, analogous to personal combat in ancient times where two sides really want to fight but they don't want Armageddon.

    India has nuclear weapons and it remains to be seen whether isreals nukes will matter, if they are on the verge of defeat I think you'll change your mind when Cairo or Damascus disappear. Finally to describe U.S. attitude as looking for a brawl is distasteful and disingenuous in the extreme.
    Iran knows that if it used nuclear weapons the US would destroy it.
    However, it could export the technology to other counties that are deemed to be the enemies of the US.
    Both India and Pakistan have nuclear weapons.They know any war beteween them could never result in total victory because of the risk of a nuclear exchange.
    Nuclear weapons are an expensive white elephant to any country that is neither a 'superpower' or allied to a superpower.
    The world is on the brink of recession.
    We have an unstable middle East...arab springs still could become arab nightmares with fundamental islamic governments in Egypt,Tunisia,Libya and Algeria.The war in Afghanistan is far from concluded.
    Israel remains intransigent and aggressive.Netanyahu openly defies Obama.

    An attack on Iran would cause a huge backlash in the Islamic world .Oil prices would go through the roof. The weak dollar and the already crippled Euro would plummet and the world would plunge into financial crisis.
    Thats just the first few days.

    As for the accusation of the US looking for a brawl being extremely distasteful etc.
    After the post 9/11 war on Iraq I dont believe that it is.

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    First, Israel is NOT going to attack Iran,. They do not have the non-nuclear capability to do so.

    The US might attack but highly unlikely with this current administration.

    If the US were to attack the time frame to watch would be 17-27 MAR and 16-26 APR. During those two time periods the moon will be right and there will be at least four big deck carriers (three US and one French) in the area with two more close by.

    It's not a prediction just a statement of capabilities.
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    Quote Originally Posted by a777pilot View Post
    First, Israel is NOT going to attack Iran,. They do not have the non-nuclear capability to do so.
    Prophet John Paul Jackson says Israel will indeed attack Iran. And Israel needs to because Obama doesn't have the family jewels to do it and no one else is going to do it. Israel will not allow Iran to have nuclear weapons.
    “For the scientist who has lived by his faith in the power of reason, the story ends like a bad dream. He has scaled the mountains of ignorance; he is about to conquer the highest peak; as he pulls himself over the final rock, he is greeted by a band of theologians who have been sitting there for centuries.” - Robert Jastrow

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    Quote Originally Posted by Easyrider View Post
    Prophet John Paul Jackson says Israel will indeed attack Iran. And Israel needs to because Obama doesn't have the family jewels to do it and no one else is going to do it. Israel will not allow Iran to have nuclear weapons.
    I would be interested in just how you think they can do that without using nuclear weapons first? Or having the US do it for them?

    I would love to see Israel take out Iran but they just don't have the non-nuclear capability to do so on their own.
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    Israel seems to repeatedly threaten Iran( and now Pakistan is threatening to support Iran if they are attacked).
    Pilots right, Israel doesnt have the power to take out Iran but could they put the US on the spot by attacking Irans nuclear facilities?

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    Quote Originally Posted by gansao View Post
    Israel seems to repeatedly threaten Iran( and now Pakistan is threatening to support Iran if they are attacked).
    Pilots right, Israel doesnt have the power to take out Iran but could they put the US on the spot by attacking Irans nuclear facilities?
    Yes, under normal circumstances, but we have a "muslim" President so, who knows?
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    Quote Originally Posted by gansao View Post
    America's itch to brawl now has a new target ? but bombs can't conquer Iran | Simon Jenkins | Comment is free | The Guardian

    Nuclear dissemination is deplorable, but massively overhyped. Warheads cost a fortune to develop and keep in service. Modern anti-western aggression finds it cheaper and more effective to plan terrorist outrages. Nuclear bombs have not made Israel more secure. They have been useless to Pakistan in confronting India, and to North Korea against the south. They did not save apartheid in South Africa, or the Soviet Union from itself

    Is the US really going to attack Iran?
    Sadly, you are so right about Israel.

    I hope that the US is not stupid enough to attack Iran.
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    Quote Originally Posted by simone View Post
    Sadly, you are so right about Israel.

    I hope that the US is not stupid enough to attack Iran.
    Once again, I hope there is no war with Iran. We should have gone to war with them back in 1979, but we had the first Fool then. Now we have our current Fool, Bobo, the Post Turtle, who is in deep political trouble and saw what happened to the first Fool. So who knows if he will use a hot stupid war to try to get votes.
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    In 1953 the U.S. should not have gone into Iran and taken down a democratically elected prime minister, Mossedegh, and installed the oppressive Shah. This was done at the instigation of British Petroleum, then known as the Anglo-Persian Oil Company (APOC), because Iran had declared that the oil under the soil of Iran was Iranian. Fools, they should have known that every drop of oil in the world belonged to Great Britain and Winston Churchill.
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    Quote Originally Posted by simone View Post
    In 1953 the U.S. should not have gone into Iran and taken down a democratically elected prime minister, Mossedegh, and installed the oppressive Shah. This was done at the instigation of British Petroleum, then known as the Anglo-Persian Oil Company (APOC), because Iran had declared that the oil under the soil of Iran was Iranian. Fools, they should have known that every drop of oil in the world belonged to Great Britain and Winston Churchill.
    Irrelevant.

    Just how far back in history do you want to go to find a wrong?

    What is important is today and what might happen tomorrow.
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    What happened in 1953 has a great deal to do with the huge mess in the Middle East today.

    As a result of deposing Mossadeq, an imam who was later known as Grand Ayatollah Sayyed Ruhollah Musavi Khomeini went angrily into exile in France where he plotted and planned for his return to Iran in 1979.

    The U.S. then installed Saddam Hussein in Iraq to pull Iraq together as a buffer against Iran. When Hussein wanted to move away from the U.S. dollar as a measure of oil's value, we took Hussein down.

    Bunch of damned stupidity because of oil.
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