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    The Truth About the Slowocaust

    If the truth was ever told, would anybody hear it or would it be dismissed as propaganda? During the Holocaust many European Jewish people and the black people in South Africa during apartheid asked the same question. When the government of Germany and South Africa were on evil courses many people and nations remained complaisant for too many years. They are not the only two nations with unsavory history as part of the truth. The true story to the creation of United States of America and the American Indians or slavery has never really been understood by the majority of the American people.

    For the last sixty plus years many generations of Palestinian people have been asking the very same question. How can the nations of people of the world not see what is happening to us and let it go on for so long. Israel by far is the advanced-wealthy nation with a sophisticated military having almost total control of the situation on the ground in the illegal occupied territories of Palestine. Most of the illegal activities the Israeli government has carried out over the last forty years could not of happened without the financial, military and political support of the United States government.

    If you were to ask a Palestinian child “What is a Caterpillar tractor used for?” many of the Palestinian children that live in Palestine would tell you “ Caterpillar tractors are used by the Israelis to destroy our homes, farms, and villages to build a wall around us or roads for Jewish people only that divide our land or to create green space in the name of Israeli security. If you ask the same Palestinian children what jets and helicopters (American Made) used for they will tell you “They are used to kill our people and destroy our homes, villages, cities, factories, buildings, power plants, roads and our lives.

    Most Palestinian children that live in Palestine have never seen a Caterpillar tractor build anything or a commercial aircraft that flies people to far off places for a vacation. For the most part they are captive prisoners of the Israelis that are under house arrest unable to leave Palestine. With the exception of a very few Palestinian people if they are able to leave the Palestine Territory they will not know if they will be able to return to their home until they do because it is totally up to the Israelis to decide and the condition on the ground change like the wind.

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    What a rambling collection of unmitigated lies and distortions of historical reality. You prove that you either have no first hand understanding of the realities in Israel or you just don't care about them and are more interested in promoting palestinian propaganda. You say this about Palestinian children:

    If you were to ask a Palestinian child “What is a Caterpillar tractor used for?” many of the Palestinian children that live in Palestine would tell you “ Caterpillar tractors are used by the Israelis to destroy our homes, farms, and villages to build a wall around us or roads for Jewish people only that divide our land or to create green space in the name of Israeli security. If you ask the same Palestinian children what jets and helicopters (American Made) used for they will tell you “They are used to kill our people and destroy our homes, villages, cities, factories, buildings, power plants, roads and our lives.

    Most Palestinian children that live in Palestine have never seen a Caterpillar tractor build anything or a commercial aircraft that flies people to far off places for a vacation. For the most part they are captive prisoners of the Israelis that are under house arrest unable to leave Palestine. With the exception of a very few Palestinian people if they are able to leave the Palestine Territory they will not know if they will be able to return to their home until they do because it is totally up to the Israelis to decide and the condition on the ground change like the wind.

    But how do you explain the generational hatred for all jews which is taught to the children on morning TV? Shows made to look like "Sesame Street" that promote suicide bombs, abject hatred and Jihad...

    YouTube - Muslim Palestinians teach children to hate in cartoons 2

    YouTube - Muslim Palestinians teach children to hate in cartoons 1

    YouTube - Kids shown video of their mother's suicide bombing death on Hamas TV

    YouTube - Hamas children show teaches: Jews are murderers

    Also, in order to show that this culture of poverty and hatred for Israel has been created by the Palestinian Authority and has been multi generational, let's look at some reality going to to Yassir Arafat who led the PLO for 35+ years. He looted the Palestinian bank to the tune of an estimated 5 billion dollars. Money which could have been spent to raise the Palestinian people out of poverty, build a social and economic infrastructure and allow them to be good peace loving, happy and productive neighbors of Israel for decades now. But the PLO preferred to run the common palestinian into poverty and lie to them about it being Israel's fault when all of the money given them year after year by many governments, not just the USA was hidden from the people it was intended to aid. Here, from the Middle East Quarterly:
    Arafat's Swiss Bank Account :: Middle East Quarterly

    Here's how another arab, Al-Masri put it:

    The money Arafat spent to buy the loyalty of his court, al-Masri gently suggests, could easily have paid for a functioning Palestinian state instead.

    “With three hundred, four hundred million dollars we could have built Palestine in ten years. Waste, waste, waste. I flew over the West Bank in a helicopter with Arafat at the beginning of Oslo, and I told him how easy we could make five, six, seven towns here; we could absorb a lot of people here; and have the right of return for the refugees. If you have good intentions and you say you want to reach a solution, we could do it. I said, if you have money and water, it could be comparable to Israel, this piece of land.”…


    In a largely traditional society Arafat stood out because he was self-made, the symbolic incarnation of a people that owed its continued existence to him. Decades before he began to show his age in public, his lips trembling, his hands shaking, his belly distended—even then he was known as the Old Man. His speeches were laundry lists of slogans and exhortatory phrases such as “Ya jabal ma yahzak reeh” (”O mountain, the wind cannot shake you!”) and “Li-l-Quds rayyihin, shuhada bi-l-malayyin” (”To Jerusalem we march, martyrs by the millions”) interspersed with Koranic verses. The symbolic leader of the Palestinian nation spoke with a pronounced Egyptian accent. His lips flapped when he spoke. To some, the combination was irredeemably comic. He distinguished himself within the Palestinian national movement by his boundless energy for the cause, alqadhiya, which might also be translated as “the case,” a term appropriate to a proceeding in a courtroom. One of the peculiarities of the nation that Arafat created was that it was founded on a festering grievance rather than any positive imagination of the future; the worse things were in the present, the stronger the Palestinian case became.
    http://seekerblog.com/archives/20050...yed-palestine/

    And here's another expos'e: Daimnation!: The thief of Palestine

    So tell me; an american born arab of islamic descent why it is Israel's fault when the Palestinian Declaration of Independence simultaneously promises to seek peaceful coexistence as it repeatedly calls for the expulsion of Israel? Palestinian Declaration of Independence - 1988 Can you explain or justify that reality of what they represent as opposed to what they say?

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    The date 1988 gives a clue to the slowed saurian thought process. Israel's genocidal apartheid policies, and the Palestinian response, have moved on in 30 years.
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    Quote Originally Posted by David2004 View Post
    If the truth was ever told, would anybody hear it or would it be dismissed as propaganda? During the Holocaust many European Jewish people and the black people in South Africa during apartheid asked the same question. When the government of Germany and South Africa were on evil courses many people and nations remained complaisant for too many years. They are not the only two nations with unsavory history as part of the truth. The true story to the creation of United States of America and the American Indians or slavery has never really been understood by the majority of the American people.

    For the last sixty plus years many generations of Palestinian people have been asking the very same question. How can the nations of people of the world not see what is happening to us and let it go on for so long. Israel by far is the advanced-wealthy nation with a sophisticated military having almost total control of the situation on the ground in the illegal occupied territories of Palestine. Most of the illegal activities the Israeli government has carried out over the last forty years could not of happened without the financial, military and political support of the United States government.

    If you were to ask a Palestinian child “What is a Caterpillar tractor used for?” many of the Palestinian children that live in Palestine would tell you “ Caterpillar tractors are used by the Israelis to destroy our homes, farms, and villages to build a wall around us or roads for Jewish people only that divide our land or to create green space in the name of Israeli security. If you ask the same Palestinian children what jets and helicopters (American Made) used for they will tell you “They are used to kill our people and destroy our homes, villages, cities, factories, buildings, power plants, roads and our lives.

    Most Palestinian children that live in Palestine have never seen a Caterpillar tractor build anything or a commercial aircraft that flies people to far off places for a vacation. For the most part they are captive prisoners of the Israelis that are under house arrest unable to leave Palestine. With the exception of a very few Palestinian people if they are able to leave the Palestine Territory they will not know if they will be able to return to their home until they do because it is totally up to the Israelis to decide and the condition on the ground change like the wind.

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    Why don't you tell us about the anti-Semetic indoctrination that your children go through every day in school in order to recruit new baby bombers? I'd be inclined to feel some sympathy if your yellow-bellied men didn't think it was acceptable to strap bombs onto their women and kids and send them out to XXXX up innocent civilians.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JPSartre12 View Post
    Why don't you tell us about the anti-Semetic indoctrination that your children go through every day in school in order to recruit new baby bombers? I'd be inclined to feel some sympathy if your yellow-bellied men didn't think it was acceptable to strap bombs onto their women and kids and send them out to XXXX up innocent civilians.
    As opposed to conscripting every man and woman in the country and sending them to shoot civilians?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jo Bennett View Post
    As opposed to conscripting every man and woman in the country and sending them to shoot civilians?
    Would you care to produce actual objective evidence that Jews are trained to murder unarmed palestinians in cold blood? Without using palestinian lies and propaganda which set up fake scenarios in order to unfairly demonize Israel. Can you do that Jo? Meanwhile, here's the other side of the story, not the lies you propagate as you defend the enemies of peace and condemn the victims who dare to finally defend themselves against these attacks.

    YouTube - Hamas Terrorist Tactics in the Gaza Strip

    Hamas, in their own voice: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i08L09V0_sg&feature=fvw

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    Quote Originally Posted by David2004 View Post
    If the truth was ever told, would anybody hear it or would it be dismissed as propaganda? During the Holocaust many European Jewish people and the black people in South Africa during apartheid asked the same question. When the government of Germany and South Africa were on evil courses many people and nations remained complaisant for too many years. They are not the only two nations with unsavory history as part of the truth. The true story to the creation of United States of America and the American Indians or slavery has never really been understood by the majority of the American people.

    For the last sixty plus years many generations of Palestinian people have been asking the very same question. How can the nations of people of the world not see what is happening to us and let it go on for so long. Israel by far is the advanced-wealthy nation with a sophisticated military having almost total control of the situation on the ground in the illegal occupied territories of Palestine. Most of the illegal activities the Israeli government has carried out over the last forty years could not of happened without the financial, military and political support of the United States government.

    If you were to ask a Palestinian child “What is a Caterpillar tractor used for?” many of the Palestinian children that live in Palestine would tell you “ Caterpillar tractors are used by the Israelis to destroy our homes, farms, and villages to build a wall around us or roads for Jewish people only that divide our land or to create green space in the name of Israeli security. If you ask the same Palestinian children what jets and helicopters (American Made) used for they will tell you “They are used to kill our people and destroy our homes, villages, cities, factories, buildings, power plants, roads and our lives.

    Most Palestinian children that live in Palestine have never seen a Caterpillar tractor build anything or a commercial aircraft that flies people to far off places for a vacation. For the most part they are captive prisoners of the Israelis that are under house arrest unable to leave Palestine. With the exception of a very few Palestinian people if they are able to leave the Palestine Territory they will not know if they will be able to return to their home until they do because it is totally up to the Israelis to decide and the condition on the ground change like the wind.

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    The Israelis know that no matter what they did the Palestinians would still want the total destruction of Israel.
    You know it as well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Archangel View Post
    Would you care to produce actual objective evidence that Jews are trained to murder unarmed palestinians in cold blood? Without using palestinian lies and propaganda which set up fake scenarios in order to unfairly demonize Israel. Can you do that Jo? Meanwhile, here's the other side of the story, not the lies you propagate as you defend the enemies of peace and condemn the victims who dare to finally defend themselves against these attacks.

    YouTube - Hamas Terrorist Tactics in the Gaza Strip

    Hamas, in their own voice: YouTube - Hamas In Their Own Voices
    Hamas is not representative of all Palestinians. The Israeli state only cares about civilian casualties in so far as they damage support for them in Washington. When the IDF can't get at the terrorists they destroy civilian homes and murder civilians, including children. When Palestinian militants can't get at Israeli military targets, they attack civilians too. Both sides have little regard for human rights.
    “When I give food to the poor, they call me a saint. When I ask why the poor have no food, they call me a communist” - Helder Camara
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jo Bennett View Post
    Hamas is not representative of all Palestinians. The Israeli state only cares about civilian casualties in so far as they damage support for them in Washington. When the IDF can't get at the terrorists they destroy civilian homes and murder civilians, including children. When Palestinian militants can't get at Israeli military targets, they attack civilians too. Both sides have little regard for human rights.
    Prove that Israeli's purposely and deliberately go out on raids and target children and unarmed civilians, EVER!!! Back up your lies with actual evidence that premeditated murder of innocent unarmed civilians by the IDF, ever takes place.

    Also, can the PLO control Hamas? Does Hamas submit itself to the authority of the PLA? The answer is NO, therefore Hamas actions are representative of the Palestinian people whether many of the people like it or not. And how can you disseminate at all when you saw the videos above which play on palestinian tv for viewing by the children? Who's responsible for that if not the palestinians?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jo Bennett View Post
    As opposed to conscripting every man and woman in the country and sending them to shoot civilians?
    I see that you've been reading too much of the Palestinian propaganda. Anybody knocking on your door trying to hand you a knapsack yet?

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    Quote Originally Posted by gansao View Post
    The Israelis know that no matter what they did the Palestinians would still want the total destruction of Israel.
    You know it as well.
    And the Israelis achieved the destruction of Palestine in 1948.
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    Quote Originally Posted by gansao View Post
    The Israelis know that no matter what they did the Palestinians would still want the total destruction of Israel.
    You know it as well.
    Quote Originally Posted by Jo Bennett View Post
    And the Israelis achieved the destruction of Palestine in 1948.
    That does not negate the point that I made.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gansao View Post
    That does not negate the point that I made.
    I think if you could convince most Palestinians that the Israelis were going to stop killing their kids and destroying their homes and farms, you might see a change in attitude.
    “When I give food to the poor, they call me a saint. When I ask why the poor have no food, they call me a communist” - Helder Camara
    “It is not the will of God for some to have everything and others to have nothing. This cannot be God” - Oscar Romero
    "It is my conviction that killing under the cloak of war is nothing but an act of murder" - Einstein
    "We do know that no man can be saved except through Christ; we do not know that only those who know Him can be saved through Him" - CS Lewis

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jo Bennett View Post
    I think if you could convince most Palestinians that the Israelis were going to stop killing their kids and destroying their homes and farms, you might see a change in attitude.
    I understand what you are saying Jo but what we are witnessing in Palestine IMO is a war in slow motion.
    If the Israelis allow the Palestinians more freedom they will find more suicide bombers in more places and more rockets fired . The people who matter in Palestine are terrorists ( or freedom fighters, if you want).
    The situation in Palestine suits Iran and Syria more than it suits Israel IMO

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    Proof of the Israeli Slowocaust

    If a picture says a thousand words, then a video can tell you about a life time


    BBC Newsnight: The Rise of Israel's Military Rabbis (Part 1 of 2) YouTube - BBC Newsnight: The Rise of Israel's Military Rabbis (Part 1 of 2)

    The Ongoing Israeli Aggression On Gaza 29-Dec-2008 YouTube - The Ongoing Israeli Aggression On Gaza 29-Dec-2008

    Israeli Army Uses Palestinian Children as Human Shield part2http: //www.youtube.com/watch?v=D7P0hvY_eGs

    Idfnadesk Doesn't Want You to See
    YouTube - Idfnadesk Doesn't Want You to See

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