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    Morality in America

    From........> Mosheh Thezion's Exploratory Committee for U.S. Senate (R) | Morality in America


    please read this before arguing... it will save alot of grief.



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    Morality in America :







    What I present here, is meant to address a very large issue, which is the decline of the moral fiber of America and in many ways, the world, as our society progresses into looser and looser standards of behavior and social norms.

    (Some in the Republican party may scream that they dont want schools to teach morality without god, but the truth is, we cannot force people to go to church, but we can teach religion in a general sense, and promote the values of religion, and in doing so inspire the children of America to realise the value of having religious moral values in their lives and their future childrens lives, and to do this, to reverse the destructive effect of secular tolerance, we must transform the schools into tools to promote those proper values, instead of promoting the loose acceptance of sin and tolerance of immoral practices as normal.)

    Now I would never suggest that laws should be passed to enforce morality, or make clean religious living mandatory, no, no, no... yet, what I am willing to promote is that we can legislate that we promote these common moral and ethical values, in our nations schools, in the media at large, and in our prison systems, as a way of pushing back against the decline in the moral fabric of our culture.

    And the following discusses how, and why, and when and where these promotional efforts can and should, or otherwise could be done, if, and I repeat, IF, the various political parties and members of Congress can form a consensus on its need, and the usefulness of these kind of applications.




    There are of course some who will say that the following is completely unnecessary, and they are the anti-religious liberals (extremist Democrats) and in their rejection of the following are suggesting that it is perfectly ok, that our schools do not train our children to be morally strong, and that such should be left to the Churches (But not all children go to church, and often churches do not teach and train, and instead they simply preach!), and those liberals may say that its perfectly ok that children are growing up without any religious education whatsoever, and yet since churches are depended on to promote moral values, such ends up filling our prisons, and drains our economy of social services, and the sinners themselves suffer from all the behaviors and mistakes and problems, which they could of avoided if they had only been given the proper education and trained to be able to control themselves and their sinful tendencies.

    I say it is not ok that our children are being taught by our schools and especially our media, to be free of things normally taught by religion, and allow themselves to be loose in sexual practices, and then killing their babies, and then believing that having a loose liberal society is somehow good for them.

    Our society needs an influential reversal, and while I would never suggest it be forced on people via behavioral laws, we can however implement programs which will establish a kind of influential push or constant driving force in the direction of moral rightness and self control to prevent looser and looser standards from becoming a social norm, because once people recognize things as a social norm, then it becomes literally normal, and society has for decades, been slowly dropping down, notch by notch, in its standards, and if it continues it will not be long before we have hit rock bottom, and become a modern day Sodom and Gomorrah. We must draw the line, and limit this kind of progression into looser and looser ways of social norms, and while I may not present a perfect solution, I believe this proposal would be a positive step in that direction, and yet, preserve the common law freedom of the people to sin if they want to,as people must be free to choose, and yet should be empowered to make intelligent informed decisions. And be trained to be strong, where they may tend to be weak.





    1) The basics :


    Sociology 101, teaches a very clear concept, where by Beliefs, determine our general attitudes, and then, our attitudes determines what position we will take when making any given decision, and our habit of decision making, is literally our behavior. Therefore, if we wish to change our behavior, then we must change the decisions which we are choosing to make daily, and to change that tendency to make a given decision, we must change our attitudes about that subject, and to change our Attitudes, we must change what we believe about that or any given subject. Belief=>Attitude=>Decisions=>Behavior.

    A change of Belief=>different attitude=>different decision=>New Behavior.




    For example.. : As Children, we maybe told not to touch a hot pan, but because we dont understand, and therefore do not believe in the threat of a hot pan, we may have an attitude which allows us to not be concerned when we decide to touch the hot pan, and we end up burning our fingers, which... immediately, establishes the belief that hot things, can burn, and we then understand what that means, and we have learned the consequences for doing so. Therefore next time we are confronted with a hot pan, our attitude will have changed, and we have been trained to know that it burns, and then our attitude will be one of caution, and so, we will likely, not touch the pan again, having learned to know better. (yet, sometimes, we end up touching the pan twice... or three times, before we change our beliefs!!.. ouch.)

    In life, we need not always make the mistake, in order to learn and be trained to know better than to make that mistake, and to do so, we must be given the knowledge (education) so that we can form an evidence and reason based belief, which will give us the proper attitude, which will allow us to make the right decision, and so, maintain a good and beneficial behavior, and avoid sin.

    For the past 10,000 years at the least, Religion has served that very beneficial role, of establishing a basic set of beliefs, which encourage us as humans to hold to very specific attitudes, and there by strengthen us, to be able to hold ourselves back from making bad decisions, and developing bad behaviors. And as is well known its always those people who do not take those taught values seriously, or who never learned them at all, who hold different beliefs, and so, different attitudes, and as such may have no mental powers to control themselves from making a bad decision, and developing very bad behaviors.

    Also, often, although we may of been taught better, and know better, and know that we should not do something, we may have never experienced enough of the consequences, or may not be fully aware of the consequences for doing so, such that, we end up touching the hot pan, or committing any number of sins, and unfortunately, if we succeed in doing so, and not getting burned, then it effects our beliefs, and adjusts our attitudes, with an experience that shows us that we can make that decision without getting burned, and that leads to making it easier to make those decisions again, and again, and again, but eventually we will get burned, and it may be severe, and as such, those people who made the bad decisions, are literally victims of bad beliefs, by not being properly trained to believe and understand, and were exposed to whatever negative influences they experienced which suggested making the bad decision in the first place.

    For example : There was a young 12 year old boy, who often watched wrestling on Tv, and then one day, he tried a wrestling move on his sister, and killed her.

    Was he a bad boy? Was he a bad seed? No... he was simply provided with an abundance of influences, which allowed him to have a bad attitude when it comes to contemplating doing those things he sees others doing everyday, and had he been educated by the wrestling show itself, or his parents, to understand clearly the differences between staged TV, and real fragile little girls, he could of been trained to have a better clearer belief, and so better attitudes, and would never of made the decision to practice wrestling moves on his little sister, and she would not of died.

    All of this understanding, is why we must recognize the power of influences most especially on children, and if they are exposed to negative influences, there must be some provision for educating the influenced to understand the limits of what we can believe about that influence, or subject, or any behavior by others.

    Belief=>Attitude=>Decisions=>Behavior.

    A change of Belief=>different attitude=>different decision=>New Behavior.




    And, Bad influences=> can change beliefs, and warp attitudes => bad behavior.







    Brain function....: It has been found that our brain works very specific ways, and one of the ways, is that, when we develop a long term memory, and develop for example habits of behavior associated with it, that we form in our brains, neuron path ways (brain cell networks), where by when I say the word, APPLE, then you, as a person, hearing me say APPLE, your brain automatically, without any needed effort, instantly flashes through every neuron pathway associated with Apples which is common to you, were as you may have thoughts which says, "you like apples" or, maybe your allergic to Apples, and so your brain immediately, flashes to the neurons associated with the warning "Dont eat apples" or "I dont like Apples" but either way, whether we are talking about apples or oranges or various forms of sin or Abortion, or any given subject, our brains automatically flash through what we have built up and recorded regarding that subject.

    For example : Tobacco... I myself smoked tobacco for 17 years, and when I thought of Tobacco, my brain would always flash through the neuron pathways I had developed over the years, and they consisted of.."I like Tobacco", "I like the taste of Tobacco", "I like holding the cigarette", "I like the smell", "It gives me something to do", "I like the way it makes me feel".. etc.. etc.. and so, every time I attempted to quit smoking, when I felt an urge to smoke, and thought of tobacco, my brain would automatically flash through all those thoughts out of habit, and time and time again, I would start smoking again, because my brain was wired with all the thoughts and ideas which made Tobacco appealing, and in my brain there was only a few vague ideas about wanting to quit, and when confronted, the side of my brain which was associated with liking Tobacco was strong, and the side associated with wanting to quit was weak and pathetic, and for 17 years I was a slave to Tobacco and I could never quit. (I tried over and over!)

    Then my mother, always trying to be a good influence, gave me a book, called Habitual Patterns of Thought, written by Paramahansa Yogananda, which discussed exactly that, and later studies confirmed the truth of the brain function it describes, which is very simple. When we develop a habit of thought, such as "I like Tobacco", or "I enjoy smoking", these thoughts are represented in the brain by patterns of brain cell connections, as neural networks, and every time we think of those thoughts, we are reinforcing that pattern in the brain, and as such, the strength and ease of connectivity of those brain cells is high, because those thoughts are constantly being used, and reused, and so, they are kept healthy and strong, yet, at the same time, thoughts we use rarely, are not strong, and the neural pathways and the brain cell connections can be considered weak by comparison, such as when I said to myself "I want to quit".. those brain pathways were weak, and when I am challenged by trying to quit, I would always give in and smoke again, because the brain networks associated with liking tobacco were strong, and the ones against tobacco were weak and pathetic, and knowing this it becomes a matter of making a conscious effort, to change ones habits of thought.

    Because literally, if when we think of tobacco, we recognize that our brain is just following its automatical function, we, the conscious human, can then, say, "no", and force our brain, to form new neural pathways, which says "I hate tobacco", "I hate the smell", "I hate the taste", and "I hate being a smoker".. in this way, by forcing our brain into focusing on forming new pathways, every day, over and over again, the old pathways begin to weaken, because they are no longer being used, as we are training our brain to form new better habits of thought.

    This process, however takes years, because our brain cells simply do not die off, and the connections do not simply vanish in a week, and it takes constant daily effort for several years, to stop the brain from following old habitual patterns of thinking, and to totally adopt new pathways of thinking, where by the old neuron connections grow weak and pathetic, and the new desired brain cell connections grow strong, and eventually, when the new habits of thought and its associated brain cells networks and connections are strong, and the old are weak, then when we think of tobacco, our brain no longer automatically goes into the old ways of thinking, and instead, DUE TO OUR NEW HABIT, goes into the new ways of thinking, which we have trained our brain to do... WE CAN TRAIN OUR BRAIN TO THINK habitually. We can train ourselves and our brain into new habits of thinking, AND IN DOING SO, end our tendency to think in ways we dont like.

    The day I came to fully understand this, is the day I quit cold turkey, and I have never smoked tobacco since, and while I may of had massive withdrawal symptoms, and super intense spiking urges, I was able to stay in complete control, by taking complete control of the habitual patterns of thoughts which I am allowing my brain to operate in. Now.. when I think of Tobacco, I automatically think, "I HATE TOBACCO", " I HATE THE TASTE", " I HATE THE SMELL", "I HATE HOLDING IT", "I HATE LOOKING AT IT", "I HATE EVERYTHING ABOUT IT".. and because of it, I was able to hold fast, and be strong in the face of massive urges, because by controlling ones habitual patterns of thinking, one is able to completely control their tendency to behave in any given way.

    Which fits perfectly, with what is written above about Sociology 101, and where...

    Belief=>Attitude=>Decisions=>Behavior.

    A change of Belief=>different attitude=>different decision=>New Behavior.




    Such that the key to changing ones views, is to have the will, the desire, and to have the wisdom of knowledge and truth to empower us to overcome what may be very bad habits of thinking, and those bad habits of thought, naturally lead us all ASTRAY into bad habits of behavior. And if we can control and train ourselves to develop beliefs and patterns of thought which are good for us, and are what we desire, then we can overcome all our negative tendencies, and become better people by doing so. But as I said, this cannot happen over night, and typically will require at least a year of re-wiring in order to make our new habits and beliefs strong, and allow our old beliefs and habits to grow weak and die off. Yet, by recognizing how our brain is functioning, we can take immediate control, and change our behavior today, right now, yet, the thoughts of the old habits and ways, will pop up, and if we are not diligent, we may slip. Which is why we must focus, on recognizing when we are having those old habits of thought, and say "NO".. "I dont want to think that way!", and then... tell ourselves and make ourselves think the other new way, by saying the words, over and over, and meaning them, and in time, it stops requiring effort, because it literally becomes a HABIT.





    Education...: The most powerful means of altering our behavior and strengthening our minds to overcome what maybe bad behavior or bad habits, or tendencies, is to recognize the power of education in the form of self teaching.

    As discussed here...=> EDUCATION

    The learning of something new, is not always accomplished by having someone teach it to you, or in the case of Morals, having someone preach it to you, and instead, for the information and or skills to stick, you must take a personal interest in it, and then, apply a proper study method in order to retain the information, and to establish the long term memories, and the neural networks to go with them, so as to be able to recall, and remember the information in the future.

    This, is why teachers, go over the information several times, over several days, and do testing, so as to serve the function of allowing the brain to do its automatic function of transferring short term memories into long term memory storage. And this is where the benefit of going to church every sunday for years and years is found, and in Bible study, because while the general concepts of Morality may be few and easily understandable and even easily memorizable, it is the act of reading and contemplating all the vast scripture and texts, which allows and causes the brain to form habits of thinking, and patterns of thinking based on the those scriptures, such that the constant considerations and stories, and preaching and teaching, allows the person to have a vast array of experience in contemplating right and wrong, and in doing so they are able to develop the mental fiber in the form of very strong brain cell connections, to follow those moral principles, when confronted with the opportunity to sin.

    Put another way... We must train ourselves via various means into Protecting the self, by locking up the devil, by empowering our angels. Which means, that in our daily lives, we are confronted with endless opportunities to do all manner of things.. in various endless situations, and it is natural as part of our Ying / Yang universe, that in any given circumstance, the analogy of a devil and angel popping up on our shoulders and whispering in our ears is very fitting. Such that at any given situation, since we know good from bad, knowing Good from Evil, that we are given both as suggestions from our brain.

    For example...: We see an old woman having trouble crossing the street, our Devil will jump and say... "hey.. go and trip that old bag!".. while our Angel will say..."No.. be nice to her, and help her across the street".. and then its a question of who we are more in the habit of listening to.

    When we see a 10 dollar bill drop from a persons pocket, our Devil will quickly jump up and say..."Hey, 10 bucks, go get it and spend it on booze!".. while our Angel, will say.."No, pick it up and give it back to that person!"

    When we see a building under construction, our Devil may say.."Hey come back here tonight and burn it to the ground!".. while our Angel will say.."No.. dont be crazy, it will destroy property and we could go to jail!!!"

    Therefore in life, in every situation it comes down to whether we listen to our Devil or our Angel, and that is determined by our basic beliefs, and our associated Attitudes, and again, by the habitual patterns of thought, and whether our good or bad thoughts are habitually strong or weak, and whether we have the education and experience and background in order to empower our Angel enough so as to be able to provide the abundant and clear and worthwhile arguments to overcome the suggestions of our personal Devil.




    And that... is the essence of my proposal, which is to say that in order to rebuild the moral fiber of our nation, we must take the steps to actively empower our people to strengthen their Angels, so as to be able to lock up our personal Devils, so that while that Devil may scream from his cage, it should be our personal Angel who is in charge, and the only way that Angel can be in charge is if that Angel is trained, and educated, and given the powers of controlling the habits of our brain enough so as to counter all the evil suggestions which may pop into our brain, most of which are not entirely evil, but may instead, only be an expression of our desires to sin in some fashion, which has been encouraged and influenced and motivated by a media promoting sin, and a school system which teaches tolerance for sinful behavior, and a prison system, which rather than rehabilitating and training prisoners, or even really punishing them, only crowds them together, and forces them by circumstance to watch the negative influence of the Media, and increase there bad habits of thinking by allowing them to socialize and discuss their crimes, with no incentives towards self improvement.




    I am here to say to America, that our entire system is broken, and is biased and is serving the function of promoting the degradation of the very fabric of society, and it must change before our people descend into completely loose secular ways and we find ourselves like a modern Sodom and Gomorrah, which promotes the concept that if it feels good go with it, which sadly is expressed daily in our media.




    We want a secular government, and a separation of church and state, but that system only works if we have a moral people, and unless we begin to train our people and rehabilitate our criminals, the very fabric of society will continue to collapse until every loose and immoral behavior of sin, becomes a social norm.




    Where do we draw the line????????

    I say we must draw it today, before its too late.










    2) The Media at large :




    Advertising works, and media campaigns to adjust public opinion work, and is very clear evidence, that our modern media must in some way be held accountable for the decline of our society by the promotion of violence, and loose sexual practices all over the TV, in music, on Bill boards, on Radio, and on so many shows as to border on the large scale promotion of Satanic principles.

    I would never suggest censorship, but I do promote something which is content and context public censorship, by changing the quality of the content and context when a given show or product is advertised to the public at large.. For example, if sex sells, then a show or station or commercial, should not be allowed to advertise with sex in open public, or express a content or context of sex in public advertising. In this way, various programs can choose to show wild loose sexual behavior as it may sell more and get better ratings, but they should not be allowed to advertise the sex itself as part of its public advertising campaign, since an AD in public view will also advertise that same suggestive behavior to the young. Since advertising works, it should not be allowed to use advertisements, in public where random children may be exposed to the dangers of the suggestion of loose immoral ways of those characters portrayed on any given show, and those shows could be given a rating based on the level of negative influence, and so parents can more easily censor their TV's. because the present rating system, is woefully inadequate since while many shows may not show nudity or sex acts, they show intent, and beliefs and attitudes which suggest that its all great, and serves as societal motivating programming to warp the minds of the public into wanting the sin filled lifestyles they are watching other people live on TV.

    The same would be applied to the broadcast content of sex, violence, and drugs, and criminal or deviant behaviors, where typically, a few adjustments would provide the same level of entertainment but without the characters needing to represent the worst kind of people with expressed beliefs which are themselves a negative influence.

    In life the beliefs and attitudes of those we grow up around, have a profound effect on the development of our minds and our beliefs, and our own attitudes, and since so many children are growing up with Television, it behooves our society to make sure that that influence is a positive one, which everyone knows, is no longer the case, because sin, foul language and sex, and violence sells, and if it does, then there should be no problem with limiting it, by perhaps charging a lower tax rate for those clearly positive shows.

    We dont need or want censorship, but we do need a way to pressure the media industry to clean up their act, and reward those who promote positive values.



    I realize this maybe difficult to do, but the media must be held to account for its part in influencing our society and its development! And yet, not ruining the sometimes excellent stories and adventures which are often presented. And at the same time, prevent things like a16 year old girl, like Mylee Cyrus from dancing on stripper poles, and keep shows like Melrose place, from using the suggestion of sex in all their Bill Board Ads, and reduce the blatant display of Strippers on Bill Boards, and prevent local cities such as West Hollywood, from enacting their own loose standards, which allows for giant ads with men in skin tight underwear, or group mock sex acts to sell cologne or clothing. We must draw the line, and the only way to do this is to expand the rating system to include intent, and context and suggestion, and apply fines and taxes as the means to enforce it.

    Of course this is not the same as a performance tax, or a fairness doctrine, since especially in the expression of political opinion, there should be no deterrent to free speech and expression, EVER, and yet, an un-biasness could be promoted by providing a tax cut, as an incentive to make the media more fair, in this way the fairness doctrine is volluntary and would help the bottom line of these media news programs.



    3) The School systems :

    Typically, the secular proponents of separation of church and state, would argue that Morals are for Churches to teach, and yet, they must admit, that only a small percentage of students are going to church, and those that do, spend perhaps one hour a week, there, and do little by way of education and training, such that it is ridiculous to believe that the churches can possibly be able to serve this function, in competition with TV and Schools, therefore I would propose to have schools simply add a few courses to their yearly schedules, which would be in the form of courses in religion, ethics, morality, self discipline, and the application of training exercise from early age, based on what has been discussed above, to empower students from an early age, to recognize their ability to control their own minds, and habits of thought, and to have the strength of will to overcome what might be any number of negative tendencies they may develop as they age, and to understand the basics of the moral codes taught by all world religions, from the Golden rule, the Ten commandments, and the teachings of the Buddha, etc.. etc... As typically, these kinds of courses are only offered in Colleges, but by the time a student gets to college their brain has already been shaped, and their ability to develop moral habits is far less than if those same courses were offered to middle and junior high school students.

    There should be a focus, to empower the young to gain the strength of mind and character, so that they do not make the mistakes in the first place, because the evidence shows, once the person, especially as a child, begins to sin, and make a habit of sinning, whether it is sex, or stealing, or violence, or drugs, that the tendency to continue in this habitual pattern of behavior is made easier, and easier, until they are locked into habits of ways, which make it that much harder for any given individual to change and overcome their developed tendencies and as such, become victims of them, by being allowed by our system to slip further and further down their own personal hole, and it behooves our schools to do all it can to train them to develop moral fiber and to understand the consequences for sin, and how there are no true benefits, and that such paths lead to prison, and the destruction of their lives and potentially their souls.

    The fact is, we cannot expect our churches to teach morality to America because most children are not going to church, and even if they do, the level of exposure is so small as to be woefully inadequate, and the only solution is to offset this missing influence by providing it everyday, in our schools system, which is not to say that we must promote any one religion, and instead can promote all of them in a general sense, where the focus is on the values and moral concepts of behavior and why they should be followed, rather than the spiritual implications, and in doing so, the atheist and secular activists will have little to argue about, unless they dare to oppose humanist moral values which are copies of most religious values.




    If we are going to rely on the school system to teach our children, then that same school system must be empowered to teach all subjects in benefit to students, early on, which includes self discipline, morals, ethics, and decency, and that will require yearly courses in world religions, Sociology, and the influence of reading various texts of worth in the effort to instill these concepts and to develop good habits of belief and behavior so as to prevent them from sinning in the first place.







    4) The Prison Systems :

    Next to training our children at a young age to understand brain function, and train them to learn how to control their own habits of thinking, we must, provide a form of concentrated education, and self empowerment training to our adult prison populations, because the evidence shows, that with light punishment as it is provided today, our prison populations are not being rehabilitated.

    First of all, the most key issue, is that the Constitution of the U.S.A. must be restored as law, and with it, the people are set free, and also, the light punishment of the modern statute system ends, and the ACLU is re-organized, and convicted criminals then, NO LONGER get light sentences, with a soft mattress and a TV, and long social periods, but instead, are provided common law justice, which is a tough mattress, if any, and chain gang hard labor, working 6 days a week, to repay their debt to society with a shovel or sledge hammer in their hands, and as such, having to suffer real serious punishment, would serve as the first means of educating the people who fall and sin, and commit crimes, so that they learn the consequences for their actions, and like the child and the hot pan, feel the burn, and understand why they should not commit these offenses again.

    With the reinstatement of real punishment for crimes, convicts should be FORCED to involve themselves in rehabilitation efforts, as described above, where by they must attend education courses in religious studies, and must, themselves read, and take detailed notes, and be tested on those notes, and forced to do what I term as self imposed psycho-analysis, where by they attempt to address their own life, their experiences, and track down the root causes of their behavior, attitudes, and beliefs, and the core issues, which motivated them to commit crime, and discuss all of it in groups, and assist each other in their effort at self improvement. And more over they must be instructed to fully understand the concept of controlling their habitual patterns of thought, and given training efforts to attempt to do so, using notes and self imposed psycho-analysis, and educated and educated and educated, to develop a sense of empathy for the victims of their crimes, and most importantly of all, to empower their own personal Angel and strengthen it, so that on a daily basis, it is trained and given weapons and skills, and reason, and logic, so as to kick the XXXX out of their personal devil, which in their lives has been a major enemy to them being able to live good and clean lives, and stay out of prison. They must train to lock up their Devils, and empower their Angels to stand on both shoulders, and have many good real and worthwhile arguments for doing and living as good people, and avoid sin.

    Religion should be encouraged in as much as prisoners are willing, and most of all, these rehab efforts must be mandatory, where by doing so, they can have hope for a change in behavior, and so do self education and training and those who choose not to TAKE IT SERIOUSLY, are absolutely required to do their full time, and their honest participation or refusal to work on self improvement would be used as evidence at any parole hearing, as evidence of character. AND moreover, if they fail to change their ways, and self improve, and commit more crime when released, then they can have full knowledge, that in prison, not only will they be doing hard labor, but they will be doing intense study and educational efforts, all of which is designed to provide self improvement, one way or another.

    And it should be in these courses, that an attempt is made to identify what personal social and educational skills these individuals may be lacking, such as reading, writing and arithmetic, and in many cases, they may all require what would be the equivalent of charm school, to learn and develop good manners, and mannerisms, and improve themselves as members of society, so that they may feel confident in their ability to succeed in efforts besides crime, and sin.




    We must remember, that all sinners and so all criminals, are themselves victims, of their own bad beliefs, which they did not teach themselves, and they learned due to circumstances, and a flawed educational system, which allows them to slip through the cracks, and end up on the streets, with flawed attitudes, which lead them into ways of decision making and behavior which resulted in the commission of sin after sin after sin, and crimes, which eventually lead to their downfall and incarceration, and since the system failed them once, it behooves that system to try again, as adults, in prison, they can be forced to work, 6 days a week, and be trained in all the ways they should of been trained at when they were children.


    As is well known, if a sinner, was to give himself over to religion, such as to Jesus, that the person, can gain great strength from doing so, and if they are sincere, and committed to their conversion or their repentance, then indeed they can change their lives, because the power of faith and belief in an outside force greater than ourselves can be all we truly need, and for those who can do so, it is a blessing, but often times, a man's intent is good, and his desire to change is real, but they continue to fall, and live as weak men, no matter how hard they try to live up to their obligation of repentance, and this discussion here, is meant to address an understanding where by those kinds of sinners, could be empowered to understand the cause of their weakness and knowing how and why they fail, they may find the wisdom to continue in their path of repentance, and would then find the strength they may lack due to doubt, fear and self loathing.


    It is never too late for a bad man to repent for his sins, and turn to godly, and good ways of living and behaving, and while many would suggest that repentance is all they need, the truth is, with repentance they may have all the best intentions, but unless they have the strength of will, and character, and understand how it is that they can change their ways, then history and the evidence shows, many will continue to fall from grace, and sin again, and again, and again, and I know full well it is possible to strengthen these convicts, so that they can become good people once again, and live as prosperous and beneficial parts of our society. Which of course has nothing to do with their actual salvation as provided by faith in Jesus Christ, and this entire effort is about how we can as people more easily live up to our obligations to be the good person we wish to be.













    We must ask, how is that good little boys and girls grow up to become such bad men and women?




    As I have discussed here, it is a matter of influences, education, and the development of beliefs, and attitudes, which lead to habits of thinking, and habits of behavior, which, once we start down the wrong path, it becomes more and more difficult to turn around. So, unless we can train them as children to avoid the wrong paths to begin with, when they are young, then it is our societal responsibility to help them as adults, and train them to build a bridge, to over come the massive moral and self control gap which has lead them astray, and allow them to, with that bridge, to access the right path again. But, it takes years to build that bridge, and years, is exactly what they have in prison, and I suggest they should spend it building those bridges.




    Nothing is ever perfect, but the 3 million people in prison today must not be abandoned to their lives of sin, and should be helped by the society which raised them, and every step possible taken to empower the old and the young to have the strength of character, and wisdom, to avoid or overcome being habitual sinners.




    We are all in this together, and we must help each other battle the Devil which lives within our hearts, and we must train our young to be strong when faced with the challenges of living in what is often a sinful world.




    -Mosheh Thezion
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    Quote Originally Posted by simone View Post
    Morality depends upon responsible self governance. If we are not taught to govern ourselves, morality is impossible.

    did you read the post?

    I dont think so... because i agree with you.. that was my point.

    We must learn and be trained to govern ourselves.

    It is essential.

    -Mosheh Thezion

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    if no one wants to argue, then... thank you.. as I can presume that i am right... and can move forward with this.


    If you have any challenges, make it... otherwise.. it proves my point.


    This is a debate forum... and that is why im here...

    As a candidate for the U.S. Senate... i do not hide... I do not back down..

    i engage... and if you agree.. then please.. say so.

    If you disagree... then by all means... lets discuss it.

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    Can you condense the general gist of the post into 50 words or less?
    He or she who supports a State organized in a military way – whether directly or indirectly – participates in sin. Each man takes part in the sin by contributing to the maintenance of the State by paying taxes.

    ~ Gandhi

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    yes...

    we need a resurgence of moral values, to offset the loose liberal values which are being promoted by the media.. such as Melrose place... and beverly hills 90210.... as those characters.. are all sluts and whores.

    period.. its that simple..


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    Quote Originally Posted by Mosheh Thezion View Post
    .... Morality in America :

    What I present here, is meant to address a very large issue, which is the decline of the moral fiber of America and in many ways, the world, as our society progresses into looser and looser standards of behavior and social norms.

    (Some in the Republican party may scream that they dont want schools to teach morality without god, but the truth is, we cannot force people to go to church, but we can teach religion in a general sense, and promote the values of religion, and in doing so inspire the children of America to realise the value of having religious moral values in their lives and their future childrens lives, and to do this, to reverse the destructive effect of secular tolerance, we must transform the schools into tools to promote those proper values, instead of promoting the loose acceptance of sin and tolerance of immoral practices as normal.)

    .... There are of course some who will say that the following is completely unnecessary, and they are the anti-religious liberals (extremist Democrats) and in their rejection of the following are suggesting that it is perfectly ok, that our schools do not train our children to be morally strong .... I say it is not ok that our children are being taught by our schools and especially our media, to be free of things normally taught by religion, and allow themselves to be loose in sexual practices, and then killing their babies, and then believing that having a loose liberal society is somehow good for them.... -Mosheh Thezion
    Precisely whose moral values?

    Are you insinuating, perchance, that "liberal" religions such as Unitarianism are devoid of morality?

    Perchance, you'd like to see Unitarians gunned down ... is Mr. Adkisson one of your "moral" heroes?
    The 58 year old killer who entered a Unitarian Church in Tennessee was set on killing liberals.

    He'd learned the Tennessee Valley Universalist Unity Church was a liberal organization that supported Gays and liberal issues. He hated liberals.

    The Sheriff who reported on The message the killer, Jim D. Adkisson, left behind, stated the murders were motivated by "hatred for the liberal movement."
    OpEdNews - Article: Kill Liberals-- The TN Unitarian Church Murderer's Motive (with poll)
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    Quote Originally Posted by simone View Post
    Precisely whose moral values?

    Are you insinuating, perchance, that "liberal" religions such as Unitarianism are devoid of morality?

    Perchance, you'd like to see Unitarians gunned down ... is Mr. Adkisson one of your "moral" heroes?

    OpEdNews - Article: Kill Liberals-- The TN Unitarian Church Murderer's Motive (with poll)

    ha... no...

    I do not favor the universalists... but That is a perfect example of a modern church, which while not perfect... does attempt to instill most... i repeat.. most of the general concepts.. of morality..

    while they may differ on a few points.

    As far as i know... it does not promote loose promiscuious sex.. and promotes the same ideals of self control... to some degree..

    The effort i propose, is that congress can come to an agreement about what basic common values and morals are found in the abundant religions, and then promote those values.. and morals.. in schools..
    As well as include detailed classes concerning the points I address regarding brain function... and habitual patterns of thought.

    that is key... because we need not simply accept that we are the way we are... and that we cannot change...

    old humans.. can learn new tricks...

    the real issue is to empower the young to stay strong and prevent themselves from developing the bad habits... which over time.. lead them astray... and make it more difficult to stop those habits.

    from smoking... to loose sex.. to loose thoughts.. and sinful thinking.. to playing with fire... to abusing others.. to allowing our rage to control us..


    This would be done by providing yearly courses, (as charm school!) in ethics, morals, values, and religions, and detailed discussion of the reason for why, and the way in which sinful behavior can lead to problems.. and often.. diseases...

    We can learn from others mistakes, but only if we learn of them, and refresh the information over and over again, for years, so as to allow our minds to have easy recall when we are confronted with options to sin.

    We must develop habits and the strength to say "no"...

    Which is something we must be trained and taught to do... otherwise we live our lives as sinners... only to grow old with regrets.. and learning all our lessons the hard way.

    We should help the children aviod learning life lessons the hard way.

    We can train our children to avoid the mistakes, which leads to prison... and potentially... hell itself.

    -Mosheh Thezion

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    Ir ia indeed heartening to note that you shan't be going about shooting Unitarians.
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    Quote Originally Posted by simone View Post
    Ir ia indeed heartening to note that you shan't be going about shooting Unitarians.

    People shoot each other everyday... and one reason is because they dont fear prisons, as our prisons dont require them to do hard labor.

    I will work to fix that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mosheh Thezion View Post
    People shoot each other everyday... and one reason is because they dont fear prisons, as our prisons dont require them to do hard labor.

    I will work to fix that.

    -Mosheh Thezion
    More likely they fear being shot more than they fear prison, and they don't think they're likely to be caught and prosecuted so they don't fear prison all that much. Ratchetting up the severity of punishments has little effect on all but the most minor of crimes. Hard labour for speeding would probably have a significant impact, given how easy it is to catch people. Crimes of violence, not so much.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jo Bennett View Post
    More likely they fear being shot more than they fear prison, and they don't think they're likely to be caught and prosecuted so they don't fear prison all that much. Ratchetting up the severity of punishments has little effect on all but the most minor of crimes. Hard labour for speeding would probably have a significant impact, given how easy it is to catch people. Crimes of violence, not so much.
    That is easy to say for anyone who has not been to prison.

    Those who have.. know... its a walk in the park... a joke really..

    its no big deal...

    And that must change... as if muggers knew they would get 10 years of hard labor... they may think twice.

    Of course.. i agree with restoring the common law freedom for the populace to carry a gun... and so... be able to defend themselves.

    these two things go hand in hand to defeat crime.

    empower the people to be strong.. and punish the criminals with real punishement.

    but..

    in doing so.. we must not expect that punishment is enough.

    those criminals are themselves.. victims.. of bad habits of thought.. of bad belief systems.. and of weak minds.. and while they are in prison, they should be given indepth training to empower them to overcome their personal devils, so that they may have the strength to pusue more worthwhile life paths.. than ones of crime.

    -Mosheh Thezion

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    moral change!

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    The world is in a moral dilemma,were at a cross roads.Will we choose the right path or will we choose to lead ourselves to complete self annihilation?When did we as the human race decide it was alright to destory the emotional tranquility of any person.

    Lets take a closer look into the human being.We have three distinct parts to ourselfs that make up the whole pakage.I call this the three selfs....You have"knowledge self."knowledge self" is the application of experience,wisdom,schooling and understanding."Inner self"Inner self is our individualism.This is what makes each person special and most certainly unque.Every person in this world has a gift.Some are teachers,some are born lawyers or doctors."Inner self" is also the true nature of that person.For example does that person have a sunny disposition about him/her self.Is he/she strong willed!Now some people will try to make the argument that its all in the genetic code thats being passed down from mother and father.

    In my opinion Inner self goes much deeper then that.Its my opinion that the genius of free will was given to us for many reasons.The inner self is meant for us to be the butterfly we are.No limitations or chains to bind us.To explore where no man has explored before.

    Now we get to spiritualself!"Spiritual self" is our connection with God and nature around us.God stated,I make man in my image.Everythihg he gave us,was given straight to us concisely in a very straight-forward fashion.The misconception is people twisting things up to try to place themselves in a position of power in Gods name;but God already told evreyone,Accept me,and I will accept yuo.Love me,I will love you back,Hate me,and i will hate you back.I do not know about anyone else but thats pretty blunt.When we do something wrong,we know beforehand that its wrong,and we also instintctively feel that its wrong.Thats our spiritual self speaking to us.When we do drugs or drink or run from our feelings we are running from our spiritual self.You can not run from your spiritual self.The spiritual self is very calculating.When your inner self,spiritual self,and knowledge self are integrated then you are at one with the world around you.
    When your inner self,spiritual self,knowledge self aer not in tune with each other then a person is not in harmony.Its complex but the interconnections are there.When
    a person is labeled a sociopath or psychopath,know that these people aer born without a spirit for what ever reason.They feed on animal and primal instints alone.They feel nothing because thier spiritual self is gone.They have no concept of compassion or empathy because they can not feel it.The only thing there is,is the need of self gratification of those animal instincts.When people are emotionally or physcally abused,thier inner self,spiritual self and knowledge self is being destoryed.Thier complete development in essence is being strangled.Thier whole character has been placed in complete digress.That person is not able to be the butter fly they were ment to be,because thier whole being has been placed on hold.That person is filled with emotions like anger,fear.doubt,hurt,pain,insecurity,shame,guilt, blame.A human being was not ment to be constricted to these emotional chains.We were put on a path and given the tools for complete and total transcendency of serenity of self,but we are on a path now as the human race that will confiscate this self-serenty and at large world peace if we choose not to do something about it.

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    Its a joke!

    Torah.

    Berehis #5; verse 42.
    Thus Said God, the Erternal, Creator of the heavens and He who spreads them out; who laid out the earth "and created" what comes forth from it: who gives "the" breath "of life" to the people upon "the earth", and a "holy" spirit to those who walk there" before Him": I, the Eternal, have justly appointed... you, "Yeshayah" and I will support you. I fromed you and assigned you "to bring My " nation "back" to "MY" covenant; to "be" a light "for" the tribes "of Yisrael"; to enlighten blind eyes, "that thereby" prisoners will be released from confinement, "and" those who dwell in darkness, from prison. I am the Lord Eternal; that is My name. I " therefore" will not let MY GLORY be given to another, nor MY praise to idols. "MY" frist "promises" indeed happened, and new "promises" I am "now" telling "you"; before they develop, I let you hear "about them"

    Those who travel by sea and those who "live" there permanently: "even" islands and their inhabitants! Sing to the Eternal a new song,"and proclaim" His praise from the far ends of the earth! The dersert and its "future" cities will raise "their voice in song"; those who "now" live like Kedarim, "but in the future will live in" open cities. "The dead" who dwell in the rocks will "then" sing praises; they will shout from mountain tops. The Eternal will go forth like a mighty one; like a master of wars He will arouse "HIS" zealous passion. He will sout exultantly "and" even yell; He will overcome His enemies.

    "The Eternal says:" I have long kept silent, "and" I "always" stay silent; I restrain MYself "But now, like a woman giving birth,I will cry out; I will hasten and strive to consume "all MY enemies" together. I will destory mountains and hills, and parch all theis plants; I will turn rivers into islands, and dry out pools. I will lead the "once" blind along a way they did not know " to follow"; I will guide them on paths which they did not know. I will turn what is dark before them into light, and the uneven into the level. These things I shall do, and will not refraine from "doing" them. "but" those who place their trust in an idol, who say to a metal image,"you are our god" they will turn their backs "in shame" and feel deep humiliation.

    The deaf ones, "Yisrael"-listen! and the blind ones -look "and" see! Who is the "most" blind "among you" other than MY servant? and the deaf person "among you" is like MY messager "whom" I send. wWhoever "was once" blind is "now" like one who paid up "his debts","whoever was once" blind is 'now" like the servent of the Eternal. "There are" many spectacles "before you", but you are not careful "to observe them", "I am" arousing "your" attention, but none "of you" listen. The Eternal desires "to show you lessons and to arouse your attention" for the sake of His righteousness; He "therefore" increases Torah and strengthens "it for you". But they are a plundered and ravaged people; all "their"young men are broken- hearted, and were hidden in prisons. They have become plunder and there is no saviore; pillage, and no one says, "return the plunder"! Who among you will pay attention to this, "and" will listen carefully and hear "what will hold firm for him" in the end? Who gave Ya'akov over for pillage, and Yisrael to plunders? Was it not the Eternal? "what caused it was that" we sinned to Him, and " that our fathers" did not wish to follow His ways and did not heed His Torah. So He poured "out" upon "them" His furious wrath and war-might. It "frist" blazed around them,but they did not "care to" comprehend, and it "then" burned among "them", but "they still" did not take it to heart.



    The world needs to comprehend the situation we find ourselfs. The world has lost its power for honest moeal leadership!When we allow people to take God out of the schools "we have lost our way"!This country and other nations were built on the fundamentals of righteousness,and the ideals of equality of all people and races of the world.These ideals were fought by great men as well as woman thruogh out history. These great people believed in the foundation of Gods law and teachings.

    Ask yourselfs this question? Have we as a civilized world been going forwards or backwards? For years we have climbed laboriously up a hill with no end in sight on when we will get there. If nothing else its just getting worse. our leaders lie to us all the time about this that and the other. Its time for a change!

    Perceiving the future in peace and harmony is not something that we can not have! We have to stand up for what we believe in and want for our children. I do not want to leave the world in so much hate and dis content for my son nor any ones childeren.

    When we allow our children to get shot down in the streets by gang wars and drive bys and let people prey on them then you know we have lost our way and path!?When we tell our children thats its okay to be homosexuals then you know that we have lost our way!?When we allow people to make billions of dollars messing up our childrens minds by music that tells them its okay to sell crack and kill you know we have lost our path!? IT does not matter what type of music it is if you are selling death then its time for you to go! When a child goes out to play and steps on a land mine and is killed or worse then you knoe we have lost our way!?No child in any country should have to even to think about those things!/ No child should be forced to fight a war or ever go hungry.!??????When a sucide bomber goes to a market and kills a hundred people then you know we have lost our way!?

    My faith is judiasm and I love God. God does not want us to be meek or quite!?The world is in bad shape and it needs to change. The truth of the matter is I do not care what my country or what any other country thinks about what i am saying in the least bit.Poeple in prison were trying to kill me for years and i am used to the drama.There are two songs by disturbed that go out to the people who were trying to kill me in standish. Staff and inmates. Conflict,and droppen plates. Im a man and a leader i have never been a follower in my life.Every since i got out of prison these people have been telling everyone that i am a monster and no good. that i have not changed,i just want people to think i have changed.I have seen enough blood and hate my whole to break the strongest person. God told me that he believed in me and had faith in me. NO one ever has ever told me that,not even one person in my family.I love God and i have know problems with speaking out! God blessSee More




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