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    Should we legalize drug use for adult Americans

    I personally have no problem with adults legally selling any drug to another adult, or those adults legally using them, because they are going to anyhow. But if a drug is responsible for a death, other than an overdose by the user, then whoever sold the drug to them should face murder charges. I also think that an adult drug user should have to pay for all medical cost they might acrue that is a result of their drug use, society should not have to foot their medical bills. I also think that if an adult gives or sells drugs to a minor, that person should have to face very severe criminal charges. My point is that what a consenting adult does as far as drugs is their buisiness, they are capable of making that decision for themselves, but minors should not have to pay the price, and neither should society. What do yall think?

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    I believe it should be legalized and regulated - similar to alcohol and tobacco.
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    Quote Originally Posted by grizzly6626 View Post
    I personally have no problem with adults legally selling any drug to another adult, or those adults legally using them, because they are going to anyhow. But if a drug is responsible for a death, other than an overdose by the user, then whoever sold the drug to them should face murder charges. I also think that an adult drug user should have to pay for all medical cost they might acrue that is a result of their drug use, society should not have to foot their medical bills. I also think that if an adult gives or sells drugs to a minor, that person should have to face very severe criminal charges. My point is that what a consenting adult does as far as drugs is their buisiness, they are capable of making that decision for themselves, but minors should not have to pay the price, and neither should society. What do yall think?
    I think you have little to no knowledge of many currently illegal drugs to suggest that they should all be legal.

    You have probably not had to fight with someone high on PCP or Wet, you probably never had a tweaker high on Meth freak out and try to stab you, you probably never had a crackhead punch you in the face because he thought you were an alien...etc etc...

    Not all drugs that are illegal are "bad" drugs. They need to be examined on an individual basis.

    And I'm not sure how you can say on one hand that it should be legal to sell any drug to another adult, but if he takes it and dies from it, you then face murder charges. By that logic, liquor store owners would almost all be serving time.
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    Quote Originally Posted by snakespit View Post
    I think you have little to no knowledge of many currently illegal drugs to suggest that they should all be legal.

    You have probably not had to fight with someone high on PCP or Wet, you probably never had a tweaker high on Meth freak out and try to stab you, you probably never had a crackhead punch you in the face because he thought you were an alien...etc etc...

    Not all drugs that are illegal are "bad" drugs. They need to be examined on an individual basis.

    And I'm not sure how you can say on one hand that it should be legal to sell any drug to another adult, but if he takes it and dies from it, you then face murder charges. By that logic, liquor store owners would almost all be serving time.
    I think you misread part of my thread, I said that if a person dies from the use of a drug, unless an overdose caused the death, than the person who supplied the drug should face murder charges. In other words, if you sell or give a person a drug that is tainted or something similar, and that person dies from using it, you should face charges.

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    Quote Originally Posted by grizzly6626 View Post
    I think you misread part of my thread, I said that if a person dies from the use of a drug, unless an overdose caused the death, than the person who supplied the drug should face murder charges. In other words, if you sell or give a person a drug that is tainted or something similar, and that person dies from using it, you should face charges.
    Unless you are the one who tainted the drug, how would you know it was tainted in the first place? Besides, a drug does not have to be "tainted" to kill you. I have seen many people who snort a little coke who end up dead from a mssive heart attack. They didn't overdose...but the drug still caused their death.

    And to be quite honest, I really could care less if some junkie OD's on heroin or coke or crack, etc.. As far as I am concerned, one less idiot I have to save from dying for the 15th time at 3 in the morning. Good riddance. The problem is not the individual doing the drugs dying, the problem is the negative effects that they have on others around them. If someone wants to hurt or kill themselves, hey...I'm all for it. But when they get others involved in a negative way...then they need to be stopped. Telling people that it's OK to sell and do meth or crack or heroin would only lead to far too many innocent people getting harmed.
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    Quote Originally Posted by snakespit View Post
    Unless you are the one who tainted the drug, how would you know it was tainted in the first place? Besides, a drug does not have to be "tainted" to kill you. I have seen many people who snort a little coke who end up dead from a mssive heart attack. They didn't overdose...but the drug still caused their death.

    And to be quite honest, I really could care less if some junkie OD's on heroin or coke or crack, etc.. As far as I am concerned, one less ##### I have to save from dying for the 15th time at 3 in the morning. Good riddance. The problem is not the individual doing the drugs dying, the problem is the negative effects that they have on others around them. If someone wants to hurt or kill themselves, hey...I'm all for it. But when they get others involved in a negative way...then they need to be stopped. Telling people that it's OK to sell and do meth or crack or heroin would only lead to far too many innocent people getting harmed.
    You just stated my basic point, if an adult wants to kill themselves on drugs, good riddance as you said. The issue is that people are going to do drugs irregardless if they are illegal, so I was only saying that children and society should not have to pay for their stupidity. And throwing them in prison does little good, because they can get their drugs in prison as well. So why not just legalize the stuff and save society the cost of taking care of them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by grizzly6626 View Post
    You just stated my basic point, if an adult wants to kill themselves on drugs, good riddance as you said. The issue is that people are going to do drugs irregardless if they are illegal, so I was only saying that children and society should not have to pay for their stupidity. And throwing them in prison does little good, because they can get their drugs in prison as well. So why not just legalize the stuff and save society the cost of taking care of them.
    Because again, you need to take every drug on a case by case basis. A general policy of "legalize drugs" is dangerous. While the consequences of legalizing marijuana would be minimal, other drugs would create far more problems if legalized. It's not just about throwing people in prison for buying and selling, it's about what people do while high on some drugs. Some guy wants to smoke a joint, eat a twinkie, and watch a movie...great. Some guy wants to smoke some wet, freak out in a Wendy's, and try to drown someone in the ranch dressing at the salad bar...not so great. Yes people will still do drugs whether illegal or not, but legalizing some substances would readily increase their availability and thereby increase the incidence of the problems associated with them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by snakespit View Post
    Because again, you need to take every drug on a case by case basis. A general policy of "legalize drugs" is dangerous. While the consequences of legalizing marijuana would be minimal, other drugs would create far more problems if legalized. It's not just about throwing people in prison for buying and selling, it's about what people do while high on some drugs. Some guy wants to smoke a joint, eat a twinkie, and watch a movie...great. Some guy wants to smoke some wet, freak out in a Wendy's, and try to drown someone in the ranch dressing at the salad bar...not so great. Yes people will still do drugs whether illegal or not, but legalizing some substances would readily increase their availability and thereby increase the incidence of the problems associated with them.
    If this is true, then Alcohol should NEVER have been legal. I can't think of something more prevalent and more apt to cause someone to do something violent or stupid.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CUNxTime View Post
    If this is true, then Alcohol should NEVER have been legal. I can't think of something more prevalent and more apt to cause someone to do something violent or stupid.
    Then perhaps we should learn the lesson of alcohol abuse and try to put a lid on the abuse of other dangerous drugs. Or was that the point that you making?

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    Quote Originally Posted by gansao View Post
    Then perhaps we should learn the lesson of alcohol abuse and try to put a lid on the abuse of other dangerous drugs. Or was that the point that you making?
    We also learned the lesson of creating a black market durring prohibition. What we need is education and treatment for all types of drugs. But not more laws to turn users into criminals.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CUNxTime View Post
    We also learned the lesson of creating a black market durring prohibition. What we need is education and treatment for all types of drugs. But not more laws to turn users into criminals.
    The failure of prohibition is part of the lesson of alcohol abuse but
    legalising Ketamine, crack, etc etc would simply be crazy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CUNxTime View Post
    If this is true, then Alcohol should NEVER have been legal. I can't think of something more prevalent and more apt to cause someone to do something violent or stupid.
    Perhaps it should not be legal. Alcohol is a common factor in violence, accidents, and health problems. However, it is also used responsibly and not abused by a large percentage of the population. It is rather unlikely that we will ever see a prohibition on alcohol again in this country, as it is too engrained in our culture.
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    Quote Originally Posted by snakespit View Post
    Because again, you need to take every drug on a case by case basis. A general policy of "legalize drugs" is dangerous. While the consequences of legalizing marijuana would be minimal, other drugs would create far more problems if legalized. It's not just about throwing people in prison for buying and selling, it's about what people do while high on some drugs. Some guy wants to smoke a joint, eat a twinkie, and watch a movie...great. Some guy wants to smoke some wet, freak out in a Wendy's, and try to drown someone in the ranch dressing at the salad bar...not so great. Yes people will still do drugs whether illegal or not, but legalizing some substances would readily increase their availability and thereby increase the incidence of the problems associated with them.

    That was the argument when Portugal legalized all drugs a few years ago.

    Drug use actually decreased.. as well as transmission of HIV via drug use.

    5 Years After: Portugal's Drug Decriminalization Policy Shows Positive Results: Scientific American
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    If you are talking about marijuana you are right it should be legalized, taken over by legitimate business and taxed.

    Hard drugs are a different story I don’t know if they should be legal.

    I have personal experience with hard drugs and it made a real mess out of me, I wish it had never happened.

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