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    Exclamation Violent Video Games: Makeit2thetop=vio. vid. games DO NOT affect violence.

    Violent video games do not cause people to be violent.

    Take me on if you think you can prove otherwise!



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    But do you think that violence as entertainment desensitizes one to violence in reality?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Makeit2thetop View Post
    Violent video games do not cause people to be violent.

    Take me on if you think you can prove otherwise!


    It seems that one example from real life would prove you wrong. Then, the example would be hard, if not impossible to prove, especially as a proximate cause.

    Quote Originally Posted by sinjin View Post
    But do you think that violence as entertainment desensitizes one to violence in reality?
    Eventually, we become desensitized to all that we have repeated before us. The new wears off and it no longer excites us...like a worn out porn flick that you've seen many times.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Makeit2thetop View Post
    Violent video games do not cause people to be violent.

    Take me on if you think you can prove otherwise!


    Hi Makeit2thetop, welcome to the forum. Although the subject is an interesting one, this is a one on one only debate forum so this debate doesn't belong here for open discussion. You should PM admin and ask him to move this to an appropriate forum where it can be discussed by all members. Thanks, Ali...

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    I believe that if video games were proven to cause violence then the goverment would look into it. Of course, the goverment might nver consider this topic important.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gpdk1 View Post
    I believe that if video games were proven to cause violence then the goverment would look into it. Of course, the goverment might nver consider this topic important.


    Actually, 'the government' doesn't need to spend our money on pooh like that. It all boils down to RESPONSIBILITY. Regardless of what you watch or play, you are still responsible for your actions. Period.
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    Hrm... I don't think that there is a cause and effect relationship with someone -playing- computer games then committing acts of violence.

    But I do think that watching violent movies or violent video games drain the horror out of acts of violence one would hear about, causing people not to react as they normally would.

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    I believe that violent video games have a negetive effect on how children view violence. They tend to after overuse, find it hard to seperate reality from virtual reality. Violence will seem to them as something entertaining, and no longer a danger. They even start thinking it may be fun to act out. I think violent video games are responsible for some of the violence amoung kids today.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Makeit2thetop View Post
    Violent video games do not cause people to be violent. Take me on if you think you can prove otherwise!
    I don't profess to know what anyone's threshold is for their burden of "proof." However, I would like to offer up something of an observation that I have made that leads me to conclude that violent video games, movies etc. do in fact cause some percentage of their viewers to become violent.

    My observation;

    Consider if you will the cost of a television commercial. Better yet, consider the cost of a television commercial at the halftime point of the Super Bowl. Companies will spend millions of dollars for a 30 second ad to try to sell their products or services to the viewing audience.

    Now ask yourself whether or not those companies would invest that kind of money if they had absolutely no prospects of getting the result they are looking for.

    And then consider the same minds who decide they want to try a particular beer, online service or cell phone based on a flash of cleavage in a 30 second ad.... now bombarding itself with hour after hour of violent, sexist, anti-social actions and imagery where their most violent fantasies are continually rewarded and reinforced with points, credits and higher rankings,....

    And I'm to believe that the super bowl ads have the desired afect of affecting our behavior but the violent video games have no affect at all?

    Isn't that kind of like saying this image " " seen once for a 30 second duration can give someone a positive attitude,... but staring at this one " " (appopriately named kill) for hours at a time would have no affect on your attitude whatsoever.

    So much for the logical idioms "garbage in garbage out" and "for every action there's an equal and opposite reaction."
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    Quote Originally Posted by CUNxTime View Post
    Actually, 'the government' doesn't need to spend our money on pooh like that. It all boils down to RESPONSIBILITY. Regardless of what you watch or play, you are still responsible for your actions. Period.
    +1. People need to be responsible for their actions. It's not the game, guns, food, whatever it's that person. Blaming something else, will just take away from solving the real problem.

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    I agree... well, sort of

    Quote Originally Posted by Charliegone View Post
    +1. People need to be responsible for their actions. It's not the game, guns, food, whatever it's that person. Blaming something else, will just take away from solving the real problem.
    I agree that people should be held responsible for their actions. But agreeing that people are responsible or that they should be held responsible for their actions does not negate the fact that people (and their actions) are a product of their environment.

    "Garbage in = Garbage out" and all that.

    So far as I can tell, this thread is not about "blaming" video games. It's about whether or not there is a cause and effect relationship between the two,.. (violent video games and people's behaviors)

    I think that the case can be easily made that there is.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chuz Life View Post
    It's about whether or not there is a cause and effect relationship between the two,.. (violent video games and people's behaviors)

    I think that the case can be easily made that there is.

    Violent video games are very popular in Japan. Violence is not. Explain please?
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    Reference?

    Quote Originally Posted by sinjin View Post
    Violent video games are very popular in Japan. Violence is not. Explain please?
    I have yet to see any proof of either of these two allegations of yours. I'm sure there must be annectdotal evidence to infer either way. But unless there has been a controlled study complete with the necessary disciplines to insure it's validity,.. all we have left is conjecture.

    I have posited my logic; that "it is illogical to conclude that a 30 second TV commercial achieves enough of the desired affect on people's behavior to justify the cost of the commercial. While we are at the same time expected to believe that endless hours of exposure to violent images in the form of music, games, etc. have no affect what-so-ever."

    Do you have an explanation as to how that can be so?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chuz Life View Post
    I agree that people should be held responsible for their actions. But agreeing that people are responsible or that they should be held responsible for their actions does not negate the fact that people (and their actions) are a product of their environment.

    "Garbage in = Garbage out" and all that.

    So far as I can tell, this thread is not about "blaming" video games. It's about whether or not there is a cause and effect relationship between the two,.. (violent video games and people's behaviors)

    I think that the case can be easily made that there is.
    Well, it does, but it is not significant. I think that is what Sinjin was trying to say as well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chuz Life View Post
    I have yet to see any proof of either of these two allegations of yours. I'm sure there must be annectdotal evidence to infer either way. But unless there has been a controlled study complete with the necessary disciplines to insure it's validity,.. all we have left is conjecture.

    I have posited my logic; that "it is illogical to conclude that a 30 second TV commercial achieves enough of the desired affect on people's behavior to justify the cost of the commercial. While we are at the same time expected to believe that endless hours of exposure to violent images in the form of music, games, etc. have no affect what-so-ever."

    Do you have an explanation as to how that can be so?
    I would argue that societal pressures against violence are greater than those against shopping.
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