Originally Posted by Accipiter

Why do religious people like to weigh in on science issues so much?

Why not?

Originally Posted by jyoshu

Why not?

That is what got you into the science vs religion war. You guys started the fight and now you are nervous because science is winning.

Originally Posted by Accipiter

That is what got you into the science vs religion war. You guys started the fight and now you are nervous because science is winning.

In your dreams, bird man.

Originally Posted by Easyrider

In your dreams, bird man.

Dreams are ok as long as you don't believe they are real ... Wake up from yours and you might see what I mean...

Originally Posted by Easyrider

In your dreams, bird man.

Wow, just wow, that is the best most water tight most incredible argument I have ever heard!

Originally Posted by Accipiter

Why do religious people like to weigh in on science issues so much?

Because a lot of us are trained scientists? There is no conflict between religion and science for anyone with at least half a brain.

Originally Posted by Jo Bennett

Because a lot of us are trained scientists? There is no conflict between religion and science for anyone with at least half a brain.

Unless you have some way of proving you are a scientist and some statistics to back up your opinion about the lots of trained scientist remark I am not inclined to believe any of it. Their are a lot of people walking around with half a brain and the Christians around here all think that there is a war going on.

Originally Posted by Accipiter

Why do religious people like to weigh in on science issues so much?

Three reasons
1) God tells them science is wrong
2) Science jeopardizes the integrity of their plan for an afterlife
3) Majority rules. If God agreed with science then it would be religious people who are wrong but he doesn't. he agrees with religious people so that means science is wrong

Originally Posted by Accipiter

Unless you have some way of proving you are a scientist and some statistics to back up your opinion about the lots of trained scientist remark I am not inclined to believe any of it. Their are a lot of people walking around with half a brain and the Christians around here all think that there is a war going on.

I have my Masters in Theoretical Physics with Mathematics from Lancaster University, I suppose you could phone them up and confirm that if you wanted to. I have the fact that I work as a lecturer in Maths and Physics at a further education college. And seeing as I'm a Christian and don't think there is a war between science and religion, I've just disproved your last sentence. As to the wider point, this may be of relevance:
List of Christian thinkers in science - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Answers.com - Approximately what percentage of recognized Scientists believes in Creation

The first thing is to decide what is meant be "recognized scientists" - eminent scientists, less eminent scientists who do perform pure research, or persons with advanced science degrees but perform little or no pure research. If reliable data on belief in creation within the scientific community is not available, we could start by establishing how many scientists believe in a personal god, because the number who literally believe in creation must be somewhat smaller than this.

In 1998, a study by Larson and Witham appeared on the leading journal Nature ("Leading scientists still reject God"), showing that of the American scientists who had been elected to the National Academy of Sciences, only about 7 percent believe in a personal god. Religious believers form about 40 percent of the less eminent scientists in America.

A study in Britain, undertaken by R. Elisabeth Cornwell and Michael Stirrat, involved sending a questionnaire to all 1,074 Fellows of the Royal Society who possessed an email address, offering several propositions and asking the scientists to rank their beliefs on that point from 1 to 7. About 23 percent responded and preliminary results indicate that, of these, 3.3 percent agreed strongly (chose 7) and 78.8 percent disagreed strongly (chose 1) that a personal god exists. A total of 12 Fellows chose 6 or 7 to indicate that they were believers, while 213 Fellows chose 1 or 2 to indicate that they were nonbelievers.

So, in the United States, 7 percent of eminent scientists believe in God, while 40 percent of less eminent scientists believe in God. In Britain, the survey indicated that just under 5 percent of eminent scientists believe in God. A lesser proportion would believe in creation; it is known that many of the general population who believe in God do not necessarily believe in a literalist version of the Creation story. In fact, Biblical-literalist creationism is considered a fringe belief.

Originally Posted by Jo Bennett

I have my Masters in Theoretical Physics with Mathematics from Lancaster University, I suppose you could phone them up and confirm that if you wanted to. I have the fact that I work as a lecturer in Maths and Physics at a further education college. And seeing as I'm a Christian and don't think there is a war between science and religion, I've just disproved your last sentence. As to the wider point, this may be of relevance:
List of Christian thinkers in science - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

What a coincidence I am a scientist too, and an FBI agent, brain surgeon, race car driver and airline pilot. it's not my job to verify who you are, you are the one telling us that you are a scientist it's your job to prove it. Since you obviously don't understand that I have more doubt then ever that you are who you say you are.

Christian thinkers in science? I don't think it says much. Most of the scientists on the list are from an age where people didn't know any better or that they couldn't announce that they were a atheist for fear of being ostracized or worse. In light of that the number of scientists on the list from 1915 on is only 24, I don't think that is even 1%.

You can believe what you like, it only serves to demonstrate that you choose to live in an imaginary reality, and manipulate it to fit your needs. However, just for you:
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Originally Posted by Accipiter

What a coincidence I am a scientist too, and an FBI agent, brain surgeon, race car driver and airline pilot. it's not my job to verify who you are, you are the one telling us that you are a scientist it's your job to prove it. Since you obviously don't understand that I have more doubt then ever that you are who you say you are.

Christian thinkers in science? I don't think it says much. Most of the scientists on the list are from an age where people didn't know any better or that they couldn't announce that they were a atheist for fear of being ostracized or worse. In light of that the number of scientists on the list from 1915 on is only 24, I don't think that is even 1%.

As far as I can see, Jo's claims are consistent with his general education level demonstrated, and his reasoning abilities. I know scientists who are religious too. As such, I think you are not only painting with too broad a brush, you are making yourself look bad.

Originally Posted by Accipiter

Why do religious people like to weigh in on science issues so much?

Because the scientific community tells them it's a fact that Genesis is wrong.

You guys started the fight

Wrong.