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Hellbound Christ-deniers: Originally Posted by Esdraelon Ah....point taken.....uh...you sure you are spiritually challenged or just ignoring your spirit? Ask Easy. I'm sure since I pointed out that god would be responsible for my lack of spirit, that ...
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Ah....point taken.....uh...you sure you are spiritually challenged or just ignoring your spirit?
Ask Easy. I'm sure since I pointed out that god would be responsible for my lack of spirit, that he will move the goalposts to accomodate this and still find a way to blame me. Personally, I don't believe in a "spirit". I think it is a bunch of hoodoo used to scare primative people into submission. But as I said, if "god" wants to come down and set me straight, I'm all ears.
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Nope...not at all. It's just that Easy continually says that I (and pretty much every other agnostic/atheist/non-christian) am "without spirit" or "spiritually challenged". I was just pointing out to him that since he believes we were created by god, and god gives us our "spirit", then those of us who are spiritually challenged should blame god.
That's won't fly. He also gave us the Bible. Plus I'm here, full of the Spirit, telling you that unless you repent of your sins and confess them, and receive Jesus as your Lord and Savior for the remission of your sins, and are born again, you will be in incredibly deep trouble at the Judgment. Note: John 14:6; John 8:24, Acts 4:12; John 3:36.
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That's won't fly. He also gave us the Bible. Plus I'm here, full of the Spirit, telling you that unless you repent of your sins and confess them, and receive Jesus as your Lord and Savior for the remission of your sins, and are born again, you will be in incredibly deep trouble at the Judgment. Note: John 14:6; John 8:24, Acts 4:12; John 3:36.
You're full of something that begins with an S, not sure if I would call it spirit.

But not good enough. You are not god, so you do nothing to prove that god exists. The bible does nothing to prove that god exists. (before you fly off the handle, note the use of the word "prove") How could I reasonably be expected to profess belief in god, confess my "sins", and accept jesus as my "savior" if I don't really believe that any of it is real. I would be doing something that reasonable people call "pretending". Not a good way to begin a relationship with an almighty being...huh?
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You're full of something that begins with an S, not sure if I would call it spirit.

But not good enough. You are not god, so you do nothing to prove that god exists. The bible does nothing to prove that god exists. (before you fly off the handle, note the use of the word "prove") How could I reasonably be expected to profess belief in god, confess my "sins", and accept jesus as my "savior" if I don't really believe that any of it is real. I would be doing something that reasonable people call "pretending". Not a good way to begin a relationship with an almighty being...huh?
Hey - I tried to help you out. When you drop down into the Pit FOR ALL ETERNITY just remember who warned you. You might be there by nightfall, or even by morning. There's just no way to tell how long God will let you live.

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"The devil stands ready to fall upon them, and seize them as his own, at what moment God shall permit him. They belong to him; he has their souls in his possession, and under his dominion. The scripture represents them as his goods, Luke 11:12. The devils watch them; they are ever by them at their right hand; they stand waiting for them, like greedy hungry lions that see their prey, and expect to have it, but are for the present kept back. If God should withdraw his hand, by which they are restrained, they would in one moment fly upon their poor souls. The old serpent is gaping for them; hell opens its mouth wide to receive them; and if God should permit it, they would be hastily swallowed up and lost."
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All fair enough, however, on your last, pappy, I've already looked into that. I know all the arguments against Paul. I was saved what I was 12 and was the worlds foremost backslider. Trust me you cannot light a candle.

But, you know what, pappy, 35 years ago, the Lord sent me the companion, He had just for me, in my wife, and I still marvel.
You an easy miss the point of the question. I am sure we could go round and round about Paul, but the question was if Paul were removed from the Bible would you still have the same faith as now. It's a question about faith not authenticity or validity of Paul.
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I don't disagree with that, but let's not hold them to impossible standards according to the ideology of people like pandion.
That is fine, I think it would have been time better spent if Jesus was going to appear to a group of half believing Jews, his materializing out of thin air would have been far more effective in the middle of the Senhedrin, or pop in on the Roman emperor. Maybe leave a note or two, at least tell your followers to take better care of the ones they took.

How about for starters the evidence decides interpretation as opposed to interpretation must conform to doctrine.
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Duh? It says "In my opinion, you are wrong." Do you have a more authoritative qualifier?
Wouldn't discussing the same thing make the responses less confusing? I am still responding to your original post regarding the sentence I bolded. The reason I was asking what you thought the sentence meant. I believe your referring to a response 1 or 2 after the first in which you do say in my opinion.
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Wouldn't discussing the same thing make the responses less confusing? I am still responding to your original post regarding the sentence I bolded. The reason I was asking what you thought the sentence meant. I believe your referring to a response 1 or 2 after the first in which you do say in my opinion.
Ah....stow it! Not important subject, but thanks for responding. Head is in a vise and I'm logging off. Goodnight.
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Hey - I tried to help you out. When you drop down into the Pit FOR ALL ETERNITY just remember who warned you. You might be there by nightfall, or even by morning. There's just no way to tell how long God will let you live.
I'm still here Easy. Apparently god has been far too busy collecting soldiers, kids with cancer, and crab boat captains. Maybe next week.
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I'm still here Easy. Apparently god has been far too busy collecting soldiers, kids with cancer, and crab boat captains. Maybe next week.
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Repent or Perish - Luke chapter 13

1 Now there were some present at that time who told Jesus about the Galileans whose blood Pilate had mixed with their sacrifices. 2 Jesus answered, "Do you think that these Galileans were worse sinners than all the other Galileans because they suffered this way? 3 I tell you, no! But unless you repent, you too will all perish. 4 Or those eighteen who died when the tower in Siloam fell on them—do you think they were more guilty than all the others living in Jerusalem? 5 I tell you, no! But unless you repent, you too will all perish."

6 Then he told this parable: "A man had a fig tree, planted in his vineyard, and he went to look for fruit on it, but did not find any. 7 So he said to the man who took care of the vineyard, 'For three years now I've been coming to look for fruit on this fig tree and haven't found any. Cut it down! Why should it use up the soil?'

8 " 'Sir,' the man replied, 'leave it alone for one more year, and I'll dig around it and fertilize it. 9 If it bears fruit next year, fine! If not, then cut it down.' "
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Ready for your diurnal Bible lesson? See if this seeps through. Hopefully it isn't too copius for your comprehension.

Repent or Perish - Luke chapter 13

1 Now there were some present at that time who told Jesus about the Galileans whose blood Pilate had mixed with their sacrifices. 2 Jesus answered, "Do you think that these Galileans were worse sinners than all the other Galileans because they suffered this way? 3 I tell you, no! But unless you repent, you too will all perish. 4 Or those eighteen who died when the tower in Siloam fell on them—do you think they were more guilty than all the others living in Jerusalem? 5 I tell you, no! But unless you repent, you too will all perish."

6 Then he told this parable: "A man had a fig tree, planted in his vineyard, and he went to look for fruit on it, but did not find any. 7 So he said to the man who took care of the vineyard, 'For three years now I've been coming to look for fruit on this fig tree and haven't found any. Cut it down! Why should it use up the soil?'

8 " 'Sir,' the man replied, 'leave it alone for one more year, and I'll dig around it and fertilize it. 9 If it bears fruit next year, fine! If not, then cut it down.' "
Yeah yeah...I got it. Repent my sins and pledge allegiance to someone I don't believe exists, or god will send me to a burning place of smoke and fire and torture forever and ever...you know, because he loves me.

Let me ask the question again...what good would it do to "repent my sins and surrender to jesus" if I don't believe in my heart that any of this actually represents reality?

As it turns out, I don't give a flying fig.
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As it turns out, I don't give a flying fig.
You will. And at your Judgment you won't be able to say no one ever told you about repentance and salvation in Jesus, so you're really screwed now.
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You will. And at your Judgment you won't be able to say no one ever told you about repentance and salvation in Jesus, so you're really screwed now.
And this is spreading the positive message of Christianity HOW? Read the beatitude before you attempt to belittle another person...... Like I stated earlier belief is based upon faith and personal faith at that.

Insulting someone and making yourself look even more insane will not turn someone to Christ ever.
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And this is spreading the positive message of Christianity HOW? Read the beatitude before you attempt to belittle another person...... Like I stated earlier belief is based upon faith and personal faith at that.

Insulting someone and making yourself look even more insane will not turn someone to Christ ever.
You're the one with the depraved gay sex mind according to the Bible (Romans 1:26-27, etc.), not me.

Why don't you try saving his butt?
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You're the one with the depraved gay sex mind according to the Bible (Romans 1:26-27, etc.), not me.
I'm not the one mentioning it every single post I make. You need help Easy, your obsessed with illicit gay sex sin..... They have sex therapists for a reason you know....

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Why don't you try saving his butt?
It's not up to me, or you, or anyone else. It has to come from His heart of his own conviction, not based upon your will......
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