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    True Meaning of "Eye for an eye, tooth for a tooth"

    I know you atheists will deny this for two reasons:

    1. It's inconvenient for you.
    2. You all think you're experts on the Bible just because you read a couple chapters and know how to take thinks out of context and twist their meaning for your uses.

    But I'll say it anyhow. "Eye for an eye and tooth for a tooth" means limited retribution. If someone puts your eye out you can't have their head cut off. If someone knocks one of your teeth out, you can't cut their jaw off.
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    I am an atheist, and I am well aware that is the meaning, so what's with the moronic generalisations?

    I know you atheists will deny this
    Obviously a lot of what you think you know is false. (Like your god)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Symbiote View Post
    false. (Like your god)
    Your unpleasantness gives me a really good impression of you people.
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    I'm merely applying the principle of limited retribution, since you've acted the part of an unpleasant imbecile, justice is served by me playing the same.
    He or she who supports a State organized in a military way whether directly or indirectly participates in sin. Each man takes part in the sin by contributing to the maintenance of the State by paying taxes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ethmi View Post
    I"Eye for an eye and tooth for a tooth" means limited retribution. If someone puts your eye out you can't have their head cut off. If someone knocks one of your teeth out, you can't cut their jaw off.
    Well, I have read the entire Bible once, and major parts of it multiple times in three languages. So I understand what you are saying. It seems to me that you aren't a christian, since christianity, as I understand it, calls for forgiveness rather than revenge.

    Did you have a point in posting this vengeance based world view? Have you actually read the Bible, including the New Testament? It seems not.
    From The Treaty of Tripoli, Art. 11, negociated under Washington, passed unanimously by the senate, and signed by Adams -- "As the Government of the United States of America is not, in any sense, founded on the Christian religion;"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Symbiote View Post
    I'm merely applying the principle of limited retribution, since you've acted the part of an unpleasant imbecile, justice is served by me playing the same.
    Quote me on what I said that you seem to think is so mean.

    false. (Like your God)
    That was obviously wrote just for the purpose of making me feel bad. I did not post anything for the purpose of making you feel bad.
    My imaginary friend left me. He said his other friends didn't believe in me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pandion View Post
    Well, I have read the entire Bible once, and major parts of it multiple times in three languages. So I understand what you are saying. It seems to me that you aren't a christian, since christianity, as I understand it, calls for forgiveness rather than revenge.

    Did you have a point in posting this vengeance based world view? Have you actually read the Bible, including the New Testament? It seems not.
    How did I promote vengence? I just corrected a misconception. I see people walking around shaking their fist in the air saying "Eye for an eye and tooth for a tooth!" making it sound like we're spiteful, vengance loving jerks.
    My imaginary friend left me. He said his other friends didn't believe in me.

    Spending our way out of the recession is like drinking our way out of alcoholism.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ethmi View Post
    Quote me on what I said that you seem to think is so mean.
    I don't believe you're being mean, just unpleasant in an ignorant way.

    see:

    I know you atheists will deny this for two reasons:

    1. It's inconvenient for you.
    2. You all think you're experts on the Bible just because you read a couple chapters and know how to take thinks out of context and twist their meaning for your uses.
    see how most of your post is dedicated to propagating an insulting stereotype which is demonstrably false? Perhaps this topic could be broached in a spirit of informative discussion, rather than a diatribe against atheists, who according to you are "all" dishonest and in denial.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Symbiote View Post
    I don't believe you're being mean, just unpleasant in an ignorant way.
    So now I'm being ignorant. My intention is not to be unpleasant. But yours is.


    See how most of your post is dedicated to propagating an insulting stereotype which is demonstrably false? Perhaps this topic could be broached in a spirit of informative discussion, rather than a diatribe against atheists, who according to you are "all" dishonest and in denial.

    Oh, so now you're accusing me of insulting you? Lesson on informal vocabulary: All means most.
    Last edited by Ethmi; 06-29-2008 at 01:47 AM.
    My imaginary friend left me. He said his other friends didn't believe in me.

    Spending our way out of the recession is like drinking our way out of alcoholism.

    "My reading of history convinces me that most bad government results from too much government."
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    My intention is not to be unpleasant. But yours is.
    See that's the thing with "an eye for an eye", it isn't about intentions. And you call yourself a Christian?
    He or she who supports a State organized in a military way whether directly or indirectly participates in sin. Each man takes part in the sin by contributing to the maintenance of the State by paying taxes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Symbiote View Post
    See that's the thing with "an eye for an eye", it isn't about intentions. And you call yourself a Christian?
    So now you're trying to change the subject and imply that I'm accusing you of deserving punishment? And who are you to decide what Christians should be like? You're trying to make it sound like I'm saying something that I'm not.
    My imaginary friend left me. He said his other friends didn't believe in me.

    Spending our way out of the recession is like drinking our way out of alcoholism.

    "My reading of history convinces me that most bad government results from too much government."
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    So you're saying it is absolutely wrong to kill someone for breaking into your house?
    Why pray when you can Google?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ripskar View Post
    So you're saying it is absolutely wrong to kill someone for breaking into your house?
    Yes!! There is no direct threat to anyone's life by the mere fact of the break in.

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    Quote Originally Posted by chester View Post
    Yes!! There is no direct threat to anyone's life by the mere fact of the break in.
    What if the burglar is holding a weapon, am I then justified in putting him down? Or it's the home of a single woman who lives alone and the man is 6'2" tall? Is his mere size alone considered a deadly weapon to such a woman, which justifies here killing him?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Archangel View Post
    What if the burglar is holding a weapon, am I then justified in putting him down? Or it's the home of a single woman who lives alone and the man is 6'2" tall? Is his mere size alone considered a deadly weapon to such a woman, which justifies here killing him?
    That's a different story.

    If you, personally are confronted with deadly physical force, i.e., the intruder not only has a gun but is pointing it at you, and you have no reasonable means of escape, then you might be justified in using deadly physical force against the intruder.

    On the other hand, this is goalpost shifting in the extreme, as it has nothing whatsoever to do with a mere break in.

    Still, the real Christian would give the intruder what he wants. "If a man takes your coat, give him your cloak as well".

    It is not worth a shootout at the OK corral over possessions, Rambo and Marion Morrison notwithstanding.

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