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    Talking who is responsible for school violence, parents or schools?

    are the schools responsible for school shootings or the parents of the shooters?

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    Could it perhaps be the kids?
    "You know the world is going crazy when the best rapper is a white guy, the best golfer is a black guy, the tallest guy in the NBA is Chinese, the Swiss hold the America's Cup, France is accusing the U.S. of arrogance, Germany doesn't want to go to war, and the three most powerful men in America are named Bush, Dick, and Colon. Need I say more?" - Chris Rock

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    given the choices (which are XXXX) I voted parents....kids have responsibility too though.

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    Both.

    Why was I not given the option to vote for both?

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    either way you look at it.. theyre both to blame.. parents not teaching their kids wtas right.. and schools not stoppig this sooner.. or even at all.. ya they have metal detectors and stuff but still.. its not stopping them.
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    sorry!

    sorry about only giving two options, these were the only two that i had on writing a paper, so imagine trying to make an argument about it, i blame the kids...but that's not an option!

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    Quote Originally Posted by PoohBear View Post
    either way you look at it.. theyre both to blame.. parents not teaching their kids wtas right.. and schools not stoppig this sooner.. or even at all.. ya they have metal detectors and stuff but still.. its not stopping them.
    I'm confused about how metal detectors could stop violence. When I was in school, all the violence was with fist fights and kicking. By time I was in middle school, what wasn't fought in the building was "meet me at the church parking lot" for fight at the local church a block away.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PoohBear View Post
    either way you look at it.. theyre both to blame.. parents not teaching their kids wtas right.. and schools not stoppig this sooner.. or even at all.. ya they have metal detectors and stuff but still.. its not stopping them.
    Metal detectors in schools? Hmm, maybe violence isn't so bad here after all.

    But also what kind of violence are you referring to? The rare ones where someone brings in a gun and shoots a bunch of kids (I think I saw on average 9 people per year die in this type of situation), or actual fights, such as between gangs? There comes a point though where a parent telling someone what's right and wrong doesn't really help. Hmm, someone commits an act of violence (with a gun, knife, fists, etc.) and we're blaming the schools and parents? Maybe it's you who's causing the violence, as you are allowing them to get away with it and blame it on their parents and school. (this is to the OP not PoohBear, whom I was replying to)
    "You know the world is going crazy when the best rapper is a white guy, the best golfer is a black guy, the tallest guy in the NBA is Chinese, the Swiss hold the America's Cup, France is accusing the U.S. of arrogance, Germany doesn't want to go to war, and the three most powerful men in America are named Bush, Dick, and Colon. Need I say more?" - Chris Rock

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    I believe the majority of the blame falls on the person behaving in a violent manner. I'm sure people who engage in violent behavior in school have been told that such behavior is wrong (either by parents or school or both), and I'm sure most of them know it is wrong while they are doing it; they simply choose to do it anyway. If the school started taking more strict methods to deal with violence, people would simply complain about that and say their rights were being violated. If parents attempt more strict methods of discipline, social services comes knocking on their doors and takes their kids away saying the kid's rights are being violated. So while it seems people are desperately trying to protect everybody's rights, nobody cares much about the rights of the victims of the violent behavior. When little Johnny blows away his classmates, our society seems more concerned about little Johnny than the people he shot.

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    The reason they're concerned about Johnny is to make sure that there aren't any more Johnnys about to do the same thing, thus saving more lives in the long run.

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    Quote Originally Posted by USAalltheWay View Post
    yu sees ifin california didnts exist dere woodnt be so mush trubils in dis cuntry
    Can you write in English please?
    "You know the world is going crazy when the best rapper is a white guy, the best golfer is a black guy, the tallest guy in the NBA is Chinese, the Swiss hold the America's Cup, France is accusing the U.S. of arrogance, Germany doesn't want to go to war, and the three most powerful men in America are named Bush, Dick, and Colon. Need I say more?" - Chris Rock

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    the kids are responsabul, but the parents share a little, and scioty shares some also, for being excepting of violance as a selution, and for not alowing the means for stoping these attacks to be onsight.
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    Um, let's see:
    Our country was founded on the backs of slaves, black and white and Native, who were more often than not treated as sub-humans.
    There used to be these people here called Native Americans. They're nearly gone. Somewhere in the neighborhood of 15 Million of them were wiped out by various causes, mostly Plague but also war. (Schoolkids almost never hear the word plague in conjunction with Natives, however. But the Pilgrims knew about it, and thanked God for it. And King Phillip's War, in proportion to population, caused more American casualties than any other war.)
    The highest rated shows on television are based on violence in large part, sex if not.
    When our President decried Saddam Hussein for being a brutal dictator the solution we got was...to invade and occupy!
    Video games whose theme is killing others sell at astronomical rates compared to any other genre.
    Adults murder each other in the U.S. at a rate of roughly 15,000 per year. 11,000 of those are committed with guns.
    We have Columbus Day as a National Holliday, despite the fact that he ordered children to mine for gold, on penalty of having their noses cut off if they failed to comply, among other atrocities. (Most kids don't get taught that part, though, so we can't blame Chris.)

    Now, none of this is meant as a wholesale slander of America, but unless we accept and understand the truth of our History we're doomed to repeat the same mistakes over and over.
    Each one of us bears responsibility for the U.S.' violence.
    Or, to put it another way:
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    With courage, need not be lived again."
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    Quote Originally Posted by mads12 View Post
    are the schools responsible for school shootings or the parents of the shooters?
    Parents are responsible for the actions of their minor children. Parents shape the morals and ethics of their own children. Parents determine whether their children will be rebelious or contribute to the betterment of society. Parents fail their children and society by not being proper parents.

    It's ALL the parent's fault.

    Unfortunately, the current crop of bad parents has snowballed from an unstoppable source of bad children, raised by those who were also bad children, raised by those who were also bad children, raised by...

    There will be bad children from now on because there will be bad parents from now on.

    Metal detectors at school doors would do absolutely no good unless manned by security personnel at all times when the school building is open, not just when school is in session.

    The only thing that will deter students from bringing weapons to school is the severe and publicized punishment of those who do...and even that won't prevent maniacal skinhead people-haters from loading up with an arsenal and making their blazing exit from society in a school shootout. People sick for attention will get it even if they have to kill themselves to do it...but one thing is completely understood...if their parents had spent more time teaching them how to cope with the world, they'd be less prone to violence and killing for attention.

    Maybe the new world order will require that all babies be given to the Brainwashing Division of Human Services until they are 21 or so. All babies will be nourished and cared for by utopian surrogate parents, trained in the production of useful, caring adults who would never hurt anyone. There will be no families, no societal pressures, no jealosy, no feeling of being left out...no reason to become angry and no access to weapons.

    Gee! I can hardly wait!
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    Personally, I would have voted for society, but that wasn't an option, so I voted for parents. With the funding schools are getting these days, most can't even afford effective anti-drug programs, let alone metal detectors at the entrance to the classrooms.
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