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    Whatever.

    The original point remains the same. The ones responsible for all of the violence at school are the ones who taught kids it was alright to disrespect authority.

    It used to be kids would get spanked at school or stood in the corner with a dunce cap on, and then sent home and get punished there for their bad behavior. Kids were afraid to get in trouble because they knew they were going to get in trouble and there were no two ways about it.

    But somewhere down the line we've drifted off course. Now kids are allowed to get away with greater degrees of acting up/out and they don't get punished, not even for violence against others, either by the school or their parents. If you're the bully now your parents will take the matter to court to fight against the school.

    Whoever brought about this movement of disrespecting and flaunting authority, they're the ones to be blamed.
    [QUOTE=Brady;363469]When I was a kid I did lots of things like playing with fire and torturing animals even though adults told me not to.[/QUOTE]
    The admission of a sociopathic serial killer.

    [QUOTE=Penfold;363126]No Personal attacks, insults, name calling, offensive generalizations, or labeling.[/QUOTE]
    He should practice what he preaches.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NATO 556 View Post
    Whatever.
    No, not whatever. Cough up an article about a school shooter or bullier who was an honor student actively engaged in community service.

    The original point remains the same. The ones responsible for all of the violence at school are the ones who taught kids it was alright to disrespect authority.
    Oh, there's no disagreemenet that the parents bear a great responsibility. And I assume you are also referring to parents who allow their children to wear clothing with intimidating messages to their fellow students to school, or parents who encourage their little darlings to go in and talk about killing or "bloodying liberals."

    Come on now, express your disapproval.

    Along with your disapproval of political leaders and famous t.v. hosts who whoop up hate speech. That even winds up in the public school system.

    It used to be kids would get spanked at school or stood in the corner with a dunce cap on, and then sent home and get punished there for their bad behavior. Kids were afraid to get in trouble because they knew they were going to get in trouble and there were no two ways about it.

    But somewhere down the line we've drifted off course. Now kids are allowed to get away with greater degrees of acting up/out and they don't get punished, not even for violence against others, either by the school or their parents. If you're the bully now your parents will take the matter to court to fight against the school.

    Whoever brought about this movement of disrespecting and flaunting authority, they're the ones to be blamed.
    Why do I have the feeling that you are about to be eating these words?
    Last edited by MarieAntoinette; 04-18-2010 at 01:27 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by simone View Post
    For cryeye! Honor students spend their times on their books and profitable activities because they want to get ahead.
    Interesting how the capitalists into "getting ahead" and "taking responsibility" are so loathe to give credit where credit is due.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NATO 556 View Post

    Whoever brought about this movement of disrespecting and flaunting authority, they're the ones to be blamed.
    Sooo you blame the 1960s counterculture which spurred from opposition to the Vietnam war which was started and perpetuated by conservatives like yourself? So you ultimately blame conservatives for giving the younger generation a reason to disrespect authority?

    I could go for that.


    It used to be kids would get spanked at school or stood in the corner with a dunce cap on, and then sent home and get punished there for their bad behavior. Kids were afraid to get in trouble because they knew they were going to get in trouble and there were no two ways about it.

    But somewhere down the line we've drifted off course. Now kids are allowed to get away with greater degrees of acting up/out and they don't get punished, not even for violence against others, either by the school or their parents. If you're the bully now your parents will take the matter to court to fight against the school.

    Pardon my frankness, but aren't the kids who get spanked/beated/abused the ones who are generally the most troubled?

    If you must resort to violence to keep your child under control, you are a god awful parent.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shooterandproud View Post
    Pardon my frankness, but aren't the kids who get spanked/beated/abused the ones who are generally the most troubled?
    First, spanking isn't abuse, it's discipline. Secondly, ask your parents how troubled they became after getting spanked for acting up.

    If you must resort to violence to keep your child under control, you are a god awful parent.
    Spanking isn't violence, no matter what these bleeding heart sissies would have you believe. Violence is defined as an unjust exercise of power for the purpose of violating others. A spanking doesn't qualify as that.
    [QUOTE=Brady;363469]When I was a kid I did lots of things like playing with fire and torturing animals even though adults told me not to.[/QUOTE]
    The admission of a sociopathic serial killer.

    [QUOTE=Penfold;363126]No Personal attacks, insults, name calling, offensive generalizations, or labeling.[/QUOTE]
    He should practice what he preaches.

    The three duties of government: 1. Protect property 2. preserve contracts 3. provide for the rule of law.

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