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Old 01-16-2005, 06:16 PM
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The Ugly FACTS About "Dr." Martin Luther King

Martin Luther King, Jr.: A True Historical Examination

Why do American schools, governmental officials, and the mass media continue to promulgate the false characterization of Michael (Martin Luther) King as some sort of hero or cultural icon, in light of these unpleasant truths?:

1) King was a Communist sympathizer who had many friends and associates who were bona fide members of Communist organizations;

2) King plagiarized his doctoral thesis;

3) King engaged in orgies with White women;

4) King's FBI file has been sealed until 2027 to protect his god-like status as the harbinger of "diversity" and "tolerance".

Get information about the REAL MLK at:

Martin Luther King


"Why is a man once reviled by the Right now celebrated by it as a hero? The answer partly lies in the fact that the mainstream Right has gradually moved to the left since King’s death. The influx of many neoconservative intellectuals, many of whom were involved in the civil rights movement, into the conservative movement also contributes to the King phenomenon."

Myths of Martin Luther King

Martin Luther King: Communist Fraud

DR. MARTIN LUTHER KING...And His Communist Connections

Reevaluating Martin Luther King Jr.’s Holy-Day



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Do you think there is a plan by the Jewish establishment to reduce america to a third world nation? And was Martin Luther King part of this plan?
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Do you think there is a plan by the Jewish establishment to reduce america to a third world nation? And was Martin Luther King part of this plan?
Of course there's a plan! MLK was black! The Jews are Jewish! It cannot be more obvious!
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All of your sources here appear tro be a white supremist website. Do you have any non-biased evidence of your claims....Especially the orgies with white women thing?

Personally I think this is another oneof those trah the king so blacks look bad threads, but go on and make your point.
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He already did...paste another's words and hide.
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Do you think there is a plan by the Jewish establishment to reduce america to a third world nation? And was Martin Luther King part of this plan?
I doubt there was an organized plan devised by Jewish groups to achieve this goal, but Jews are on the record as being the primary "movers and shakers" behind very many changes that have ocurred in America during the last several decades – changes that have not been at all beneficial for Whites. For example, have a look at the documentary record of the Jewish involvement in the so-called "civil rights" movement of the 1960s:

http://www.martinlutherking.org/ma-chapter18.html


This book explains in detail how Jews have been at the forefront of every "liberal" cause during the last century:

http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/AS...858857-6024844


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All of your sources here appear tro be a white supremist website. Do you have any non-biased evidence of your claims....Especially the orgies with white women thing?
"That night King retired to his room at the Willard Hotel. There FBI bugs reportedly picked up 14 hours of party chatter, the clinking of glasses and the sounds of illicit sex--including King's cries of "I'm f--ing for God" and "I'm not a Negro tonight!"

Note: What is not mentioned in this article is that Martin Luther King was having sex with three White women, one of whom he brutally beat while screaming the above mentioned quotes. Much of the public information on King's use of church money to hire prostitutes and his beating them came from King's close personal friend, Rev. Ralph Abernathy (pictured above), in his 1989 book, "And the walls came tumbling down."

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Newsweek Magazine 1-19-1998, page 62

"And the walls came tumbling down," by Rev. Ralph Abernathy (1989)

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http://www.mlking.org/dream.html

The Myths of Martin Luther King

The Destruction of an "American" Icon

There is probably no greater sacred cow in America than Martin Luther King Jr. The slightest criticism of him or even suggesting that he isn’t deserving of a national holiday leads to the usual accusations of racist, fascism, and the rest of the usual left-wing epithets not only from liberals, but also from many ostensible conservatives and libertarians.

This is amazing because during the 50s and 60s, the Right almost unanimously opposed the civil rights movement. Contrary to the claims of many neocons, the opposition was not limited to the John Birch Society and southern conservatives. It was made by politicians like Ronald Reagan and Barry Goldwater, and in the pages of Modern Age, Human Events, National Review, and the Freeman.

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http://www.lewrockwell.com/orig/epstein9.html



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Sorry, but these are still not reliable sources of such info. Your newsweek one leaves out the fact about the white women, it justs say note what the article doesn't.....

Well, who added that note? you.


The books you have listed are even printed by antisematic goups and listed on the page on Amazon with othe antisemtic books. SO that is not a relable source either. So what you are really saying is you don't have a reliable source for this info.
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what exactly would change if any of these claims were true? blacks have come a long way in terms of illegalizing segregation, through the work that mlk did during his lifetime. if he indeed indulged in orgies with white women, i think he deserved it. if it was me in the situation, i can easily imagine myself doing the same things

people who think that the beneficial achievements of historical figures can be tarnished because their lives weren't kosher have a narrow minded view. then again, mosy people in america think this way. look at the political campaigns: nothing on the benefits of the running candidate, but everything about the dirt of the opponent.

regardless of what your white-supremist research has shown, america wont go back to segregation and lynching. if your claims are indeed true, then thats interesting to know, but by no means consequential to the achievement made by mlk.
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Can you believe the nerve of that guy? Having an orgy with WHITE women?

He should have been lynched on the spot.



I can't believe that you believe that **** that spews out of your own mouth.

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Woodrow Wilson was an adulterer and a racist.
Strom Thurmond had an illegitimate black daughter and was racist.
Abraham Licoln was gay and he was a racist.
David Duke had a negro as his spokesman (and is racist).
http://www.skinheadz.com/docs/ideolo...isionists.html



I love this sample ballot from Mississippi in 1948.
Strom was running.

http://mshistory.k12.ms.us/features/...mo_ballot.html
I love the part about the "viscious anti-lynching."
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I suggest you read Cecil Adams (From the Straightdope) had to say on the matter:

http://www.straightdope.com/columns/030502.html

I think I'll quote the end, after he reveals everything about King:

"As every reasonable observer has commented, neither King's sexual wanderings nor his scholarly misdeeds detract from his core achievement. By continually publicizing black grievances while putting a palatable, nonviolent face on resistance to jim crow, King paved the way for the landmark civil rights legislation of the 1960s and a major turnaround in public attitudes about race. But there's no getting around the fact that he was a complex and deeply flawed man. Was he a great American? No argument here. Was he a fraud and a hypocrite? He was that, too."

Cecil says it all there. He wasn't perfect, he was a man. He had his flaws, but his accomplishment is still great, nevertheless those flaws.
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Woodrow Wilson was an adulterer and a racist.
Strom Thurmond had an illegitimate black daughter and was racist.
Abraham Licoln was gay and he was a racist.
David Duke had a negro as his spokesman (and is racist).
http://www.skinheadz.com/docs/ideolo...isionists.html



I love this sample ballot from Mississippi in 1948.
Strom was running.

http://mshistory.k12.ms.us/features/...mo_ballot.html
I love the part about the "viscious anti-lynching."
You forgot that President Warren G. Harding was inducted into the Klu Klux Klan DURING his Presidency (some say it was on the White House lawn, but I highly suspect this is an exaggeration to make it more stunning, but it's nevertheless possible, I've seen no evidence either way).
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first off, communists are not evil. they just have a plan to make the earth a better place that doesn't work.
LOL! Awesome. That has got to be the best, most concise and accurate definition of communism I have ever heard.
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Martin Luther King, Jr.: A True Historical Examination

Why do American schools, governmental officials, and the mass media continue to promulgate the false characterization of Michael (Martin Luther) King as some sort of hero or cultural icon, in light of these unpleasant truths?:

1) King was a Communist sympathizer who had many friends and associates who were bona fide members of Communist organizations;
Contrary to popular ignorance, communism is just a political philosophy that favors the whole, rather than the individual. There is nothing inherently bad about it, or being associated with it. It hasn't seemed to work for selfish people (everyone), but it's not "evil" by any stretch.

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2) King plagiarized his doctoral thesis;
If true, not great, but realistically, not a big deal. The man earned his stripes through his actions, not his thesis. Blame the XXXXXX that awarded it without checking it.

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3) King engaged in orgies with White women;
RAWR! This is a negative list? This sounds quite positive!

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4) King's FBI file has been sealed until 2027 to protect his god-like status as the harbinger of "diversity" and "tolerance".
And this has never been done for white-folk? Give me a break.


Get information about the REAL MLK at:

Martin Luther King

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I've said it before and I'll say it again. 'Martin Luther King, Jr.' was a sexual degenerate,
definition of "male"

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a liar
Um, everyone lies it seems, especially leaders, lawyers, and politicians, comes with the territory.

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a phony reverend
Aren't all reverends phony? He lead and inspired more than probably any other signle "reverend", I suspect he can be called whatever he likes.

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a phony Christian
lol, what's wrong with that?

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an imposter
gah, who was he posing as?

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a criminal
Who hasn't broken a law in their life?

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a Communist functionary
it's a philosophy, get over it.

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an enemy of America
Ooh, proof? What is America? Isn't America the people? Isn't King a people too? was King, King's enemey? This is nonsense.

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a traitor to even his own people
Traitor...unlikely. If you mean he did something to benefit himself, see also: Captialism....

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and a willing pawn in the Jewish establishment's plan to reduce America from a great White nation to a Third World feeding and breeding zone.
lol. proof please. Besides, those breeders pay taxes, if you want to eject them, the rich white folk will beat you down.

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