Originally Posted by Chuz Life

That's right.

The one thing government can not afford and will not tolerate is competition.

The insurance companies cannot tolearte competition. The are exempted from the Sherman Anti-trust act. I take it you support removing this exemption.

Originally Posted by modulus

The insurance companies cannot tolearte competition. The are exempted from the Sherman Anti-trust act. I take it you support removing this exemption.

If I have said anything that leads you to believe I am adverse to having more competition, I apologize.

And I'm glad that you agree with me that more competition is not only good.... but needed.

That said,... Allowing government to run healthcare is in no way condusive towards that end. Take a look at the Postal service verses DHL, FedX, and UPS.... It's hardly a level playing field when one of the 'competitors' has the power to regulate, tax and control the remaining competitors. And has the services improved as a result? The quality of service? The solvency?

No.

The fees have increased steadily, branches are closing, layoffs taking place and Jobs lost.

If you can't trust the government to run a postal service,.... how can you trust them to run your healthcare?

Originally Posted by modulus

Do you know what the public option is?

I think I know it as well as O'Bummer does.

Originally Posted by modulus

So now you also want to do away with public education?

I want the freedom to pay for my children's education myself. Rather than to have the inefficient use of my money that we have today,... where the taxes are mandated, trickled through a immense and growing (failing) system that has little to no accountability to the parents who's children they are supposedly responsible for educating.

I paid my taxes, I attended public schools myself.... and I made the necessary sacrifices in my and my family's life to pay the extra money needed to see that my child did not have to endure the failed Government run schools that I did.

A government which is sincerely concerned about the education of our children would REWARD parents for taking the initiative that I took in my child's education. Instead, we are forced to fund the failed public schools, subsidizing Union hacks and the un-relenting ridicule and other attacks from those who defend the system.

Freedom = School vouchers, tax incentives and school choice.

Mandate Public Schools = No accountability, Union Security and no competition.

It's a no brainer,... even for this 'publically educated' individual.

Originally Posted by modulus

How is it obvious? The money required to get it started is minimal.

So you concede that it will be funded by taxpayer $.

Spare us your opinion on whether that cost is "minimal" or not.

Originally Posted by Symbiote

So you concede that it will be funded by taxpayer $.

Spare us your opinion on whether that cost is "minimal" or not.

It's like,...

"What part of 12 TRILLION dollars (and growing) in debt is so hard to comprehend? "

Originally Posted by modulus

How is it obvious? The money required to get it started is minimal.

Originally Posted by Symbiote

So you concede that it will be funded by taxpayer $.

Spare us your opinion on whether that cost is "minimal" or not.

Originally Posted by Chuz Life

It's like,...

"What part of 12 TRILLION dollars (and growing) in debt is so hard to comprehend? "

Exactly, and what is minimal about the money needed to finance this debacle called Obamacare? How can these people not do the math to see that nothing is for nothing, and this is going to cost us more money for less quality healthcare?

But then again, Liberals don't even care about excellence nor results. They are content with mere mediocrity.

Originally Posted by Chuz Life

If I have said anything that leads you to believe I am adverse to having more competition, I apologize.

And I'm glad that you agree with me that more competition is not only good.... but needed.

That said,... Allowing government to run healthcare is in no way condusive towards that end. Take a look at the Postal service verses DHL, FedX, and UPS.... It's hardly a level playing field when one of the 'competitors' has the power to regulate, tax and control the remaining competitors. And has the services improved as a result? The quality of service? The solvency?

No.

The fees have increased steadily, branches are closing, layoffs taking place and Jobs lost.

If you can't trust the government to run a postal service,.... how can you trust them to run your healthcare?

What exactly are you saying? That Fedex, DHL and UPS are bad because the Post Office regulates hem?

Originally Posted by Symbiote

So you concede that it will be funded by taxpayer $.

Spare us your opinion on whether that cost is "minimal" or not.

No, it will be funded by premiums.

Originally Posted by Archangel

Exactly, and what is minimal about the money needed to finance this debacle called Obamacare? How can these people not do the math to see that nothing is for nothing, and this is going to cost us more money for less quality healthcare?

Are you saying that the public option will cost 12 trillion of taxpayer's money? I think you are misinformed about the public option.

The federal government would create a health insurance plan financed entirely by premiums, to provide citizens not covered by employer or other state insurance plans an option for health insurance that would compete with private insurers. There are no subsidies set aside exclusively for a public health insurance plan in any of the bills currently before Congress.[1]

Public health insurance option - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Originally Posted by modulus

What exactly are you saying? That Fedex, DHL and UPS are bad because the Post Office regulates hem?

I'm saying that it's not a level playing field. Did you not read what I wrote with any consideration at all?

Originally Posted by modulus

Are you saying that the public option will cost 12 trillion of taxpayer's money? I think you are misinformed about the public option.

Why don't you try reading what others post then slow down and think about what they said and WHO actually said it,... before you make a fool out of yourself and waste everyone's time and bandwidth?

The 12 Trillion dollar debt that I posted about (Not Archie) was to show we don't have the funds for National healthcare. We don't have the funds for Medicare, Medicaide or Social Security either.

But, why am I even hopeful that you will take any of that into consideration. You don't seem to have the aptitude for it.