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Old 01-21-2010, 02:52 PM
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What's the scoop here?

It seems to me with all the shootings that occur in the United States because of all the gun happy nuts running around, everyone would know how to do first aid at the site of a shooting.

I understand bullet wounds are kind of nasty because they're deep. There's also the massive loss of blood; To be sure, the massive bleeding would wash out nasty debris but a body can't stand to lose a bunch of blood.
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Old 01-21-2010, 03:23 PM
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It seems to me with all the shootings that occur in the United States because of all the gun happy nuts running around
Actually, shootings happen because a person points a firearm at someone and pulls the trigger. This is illegal. You can't make it more illegal than it already is.

Shootings do not happen because of gun happy nuts running around. Nobody has ever been injured anywhere by any gun happy nut running around. Many have been injured by criminals who disobey the law.

As far as puncture wounds, do stabbings count?

Or, as it appears, are you only concerned with those caused by firearms?
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Actually, shootings happen because a person points a firearm at someone and pulls the trigger. This is illegal. You can't make it more illegal than it already is.

Shootings do not happen because of gun happy nuts running around. Nobody has ever been injured anywhere by any gun happy nut running around. Many have been injured by criminals who disobey the law.

As far as puncture wounds, do stabbings count?

Or, as it appears, are you only concerned with those caused by firearms?
Good point.

How many stab wounds are there, relative to gun wounds, in the U.S.?
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Good point.

How many stab wounds are there, relative to gun wounds, in the U.S.?
Good question, but it's irrelevant.

I always find it amusing. Liberals put on a great show about caring so much about saving lives and making things better. But when confronted with the fact that there's more than one way to murder people in a crime, they claim that the other methods don't matter as much because not as many people die.

So is it that you really don't care about saving the lives of innocent people? Or is it that just not enough people are currently dying from stabbings and beatings for you to care? What is it, do you have a death quota to fill or something?
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Old 01-21-2010, 08:33 PM
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Actually, if you really want to save lives, there are more people injured by blunt force trauma than any bodily penetration you can come up with, bullets, knives, broken bottles, ice picks, you name it.

You really want to stop the senseless violence?

Get rid of sticks, rocks, golf clubs, baseball bats, candlesticks, frying pans, and drunk husband's fists.
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Yes trauma to organs and arteries,but no one really mentioned infection,even though the bullet its self is sterile there's still dirt on the skin and bits of cloth
entering with the bullet.Even a minor wound can be just as fatal,only slower.
Though Timone did mention nasty debris
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Actually, if you really want to save lives, there are more people injured by blunt force trauma than any bodily penetration you can come up with, bullets, knives, broken bottles, ice picks, you name it.

You really want to stop the senseless violence?

Get rid of sticks, rocks, golf clubs, baseball bats, candlesticks, frying pans, and drunk husband's fists.
You generally see someone approaching you with the various implements you mentioned.

The thing about a gun is that it can be concealed and whipped out in a moment. I hate cowards like that who are sneaky and don't give any visible warnings. Also, a person has a change to run from those other things, admiittedly, a tossed rock can do damage, and if your opponent is especially hefty, a frying pan might fly a goodly distance, but it's the pure cowardly aspect of whipping out a gun that angers me, having a considerable advantage at a considerable distance.
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What's the scoop here?
I dunno. What is the scoop here? You complain about the responses we give, and yet you keep coming back for more. Even people with down syndrome learn enough to only stick their hands in the open flame once.

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It seems to me with all the shootings that occur in the United States because of all the gun happy nuts running around, everyone would know how to do first aid at the site of a shooting.
Any evidence to support your foolish belief that it's the law-abiding gun owners who're shooting people and committing crimes?

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I understand bullet wounds are kind of nasty because they're deep.
Actually depth has nothing to do with it. You can be shot through and through and suffer no serious injuries. What matters is what's hit in the middle.

Of course knife wounds are far worse. You've got a small hole versus a deep gash that'll cut arteries and organs in its path.

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There's also the massive loss of blood; To be sure, the massive bleeding would wash out nasty debris but a body can't stand to lose a bunch of blood.
When you're shot there's something called a temporary wound cavity, which the muscle and tissue closes in on. Bleeding out, at least based on what I've read, isn't the most likely cause of death unless something vital is actually hit.

And what does this little blurb of yours have to do with anything?
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What's the scoop here?

It seems to me with all the shootings that occur in the United States because of all the gun happy nuts running around, everyone would know how to do first aid at the site of a shooting.

I understand bullet wounds are kind of nasty because they're deep. There's also the massive loss of blood; To be sure, the massive bleeding would wash out nasty debris but a body can't stand to lose a bunch of blood.
With all of the drunks running around, you'd think everyone would know how to treat someone for alcohol poisoning or being run over by a car, wouldn't you.
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With all of the drunks running around, you'd think everyone would know how to treat someone for alcohol poisoning or being run over by a car, wouldn't you.
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What's the scoop here?
Where were you when we discussed this TWICE previously?

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It seems to me with all the shootings that occur in the United States because of all the gun happy nuts running around, everyone would know how to do first aid at the site of a shooting.
Nice slur, good way to show your false "compassion"

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I understand bullet wounds are kind of nasty because they're deep. There's also the massive loss of blood; To be sure, the massive bleeding would wash out nasty debris but a body can't stand to lose a bunch of blood.
Depends where it hits. Two to the center and one to the head is the accepted protocol. I posted Dr. Fackler's, the leading authority on 'wounds', previously. Did you miss it and the Miami Dade shooting events? Scroll back dearie.
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What's the scoop here?

It seems to me with all the shootings that occur in the United States because of all the gun happy nuts running around, everyone would know how to do first aid at the site of a shooting.

Good idea simone, when do you start your training.

I understand bullet wounds are kind of nasty because they're deep. There's also the massive loss of blood; To be sure, the massive bleeding would wash out nasty debris but a body can't stand to lose a bunch of blood.
Well so is falling out of a building onto a piece of rebar. Or getting mashed in a car crash. There are a lot more of those than shootings but you don't seem to care. Why is that? Is it because you love to dance in blood?
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