you either want that loose standard of good parenting applied to all..

or you want it applied to just gay parents.


which is it?

-Mosheh Thezion

basically, if they'll be a good parent, then they should at least be able to foster them, bikers, gay people, purple people.

And so.. who is not worthy? if anyone.???

Or are all welcome?


-Mosheh Thezion

any person with enough money to raise a child, enough love, and the usual parenting stuff. i'm not a parent and the parents i see are either really bad at it or too good at it for it to be true.

So you are saying that the child will be involved in the sex act? Since heterosexuals that adopt children are not always monogamous and their monogamy is never brought into adoption cases.

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“While we have come a long way since the Stonewall riots in 1969, we still have a lot of work to do. Too often, the issue of LGBT rights is exploited by those seeking to divide us. But at its core, this issue is about who we are as Americans. It’s about whether this nation is going to live up to its founding promise of equality by treating all its citizens with dignity and respect.”

— Senator Barack Obama

Nothing hate-filled about it. I'mk trying to turn people to repentance and salvation. But obviously you're full of hatred and, instead of repenting, you rededicate yourself to propping up the illicit gay lifestyle, defending iniquity at every turn, and leading other people astray.

Your pro-gay thing is your idol. You're not preaching Jesus Christ, you're preaching your pro-gay immorality.

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I can't speak for Jason, but I know one of the worst parts is when people tell me when I'm a sinner and save me. It's great you have your religion and morals, it seriously is. But that doesn't make it okay for you or others to try and 'save me'. As a kid, I went to church and Sunday School and all that. I never bought into the beliefs I were taught. After some incidents before my confirmation, I decided to leave the church after my confirmation.

Being gay is not a sin. It is not a choice. When you sin, you choose to do it. You have no choice in being gay.

It's not a "loose standard" at all to allow capable gay couples to adopt. It may be in the best interests of the child, depending on the couple. The fact that they are the same sex has no bearing on their ability to be good parents.

Who's to say your idol is not gay exclusion? Jesus Christ himself never says gay people are to be excluded. He didn't talk about "the gay lifestyle", whatever that meaningless abstraction of a term is.

I am not full of hatred Easy that is why the plight of the destitute and the oppressed concern me in every manner. Those who are murdered or beaten or demonized for who they are, for something they cannot change, only because their love of another human being is somehow different from yours.

You are trying to turn others to what you believe is repentance but your methods are flawed. Calling people "morally corrupt" or their love "illicit" just shows how narrow your views are.

Being gay I must restate is NOT a lifestyle. A lifestyle is a choice a definition of one's self based upon influence. Being gay has many variations of people living in many different ways. Being gay is just as diverse as being strait.

And Easy you are not preaching the core message of Christ. Christ EMBRACED the sinner! Christ embraced the prostitute, the blind, the down trodden, he cared for the oppressed, the little man, those who had no voice and were shunned because of WHO THEY WERE. THAT is the message of Christ Easy. Unconditional nonjudgmental unbiased love. What you preach and what you post is NOTHING even close to that of the message of Christ whatsoever.

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"What a joke; It takes nerve for a couple of anti-christian reprobates to start criticizing believers."

"Or to claim to understand the nature or character of Jesus. If you two had a clue about Jesus teachings, you wouldn't be opposing them with every fiber of your beings."

-Archangel

"Disagreeing with you does not make someone anti-Christian, Archangel, it makes them anti-nutjob." - Jo Bennett

The Hells Angels are an instution of organized crime and NAMBLA is group that advocates for and often engages in the criminal act of child molestation. There should be no religious litmus test before allowing people to adopt. Comparing homosexuals to criminals speaks volumes about you. You are not the well-reasoned, tolerant person you think you are.

Nearly choked on my morning water (don't do coffee) here. I am sorry, but a religion that only allows intimacy and love for those who are lucky enough to be born with a certain sexual orientation has no business bitching about the iniquity in others.

The god you worship is an a$$hole. The message you send about gays is hateful and hurtful. How you can worship something that does damage is beyond me. I certainly would not hold my deity to lower standards than I hold myself.

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"Those who are easily shocked... should be shocked more often" ~ Mae West

I believe that my question was pretty self-evident. I agreed that gays can make good parents as long as they didn't maintain a poor example to their kids....same goes for straights. Promiscuous straights or gays should not be allowed to adopt kids.

Before you get your panties in a wad, read the response above.

In my opinion, the morality of the prospective parents is paramount regardless of their sexual orientation. The fact that straights aren't always monogomous is no reason to give carte blanche to other unhealthy relationships.

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so...

you believe the people.. and sub-culture people affliliate themselves with should be a measure of their worth as potential parents????

ahh... thats what you just infired...

which... since gay parents... affiliate with a gay subculture which is having wild loose sex... as part of their sub-culture of sexual freedom...

why is that less worse.. than drug dealing gang members?


drug dealing... is just business...

loose sex in bathrooms, and parks.. is not something you.. can even justify.


Or will you try to defend the gay sub-culture?

and suggest having loose gay sex with strange men, is better than dealing drugs?

oh please try.... say its better.. go ahead.

-Mosheh Thezion

Nice to see you, Jito. I don't agree with any of the drivel above, but it's always nice to see you.

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You're generalizing and stereotyping here. Neither me, nor any of my gay friends have 'loose gay sex'. Just like with straight people, and you, assuming you have a significant other.