Since when is it discriminatory for a PRIVATELY OWNED business to specialize in offering a certain product style, or type, which serves a certain demographic? Must a French Restaurant also sell Italian cuisine so as not to be accused of discriminating against Italians? Must Armani also sell Brooks Brothers in order to avoid discriminating against Men who want an American cut suit? How can Microsoft get away with not selling Apple Software? They are discriminating against me directly since I have iMac and MacBook Computers. How discriminatory is that?

And why isn't every single gay dating service listed on Google, all 990,000 of them required to also serve a straight clientele also? If it works one way, then surely the reverse should work also. You seem to think it's justified to force a private business owner to cater to a demographic which he never set out to serve, but will you support the requirement that all gay dating services must also serve straights? If not then you are what I have always said you are; a bigoted hypocrite who can't stand the thought of allowing straights to do anything which doesn't involve your community, while your community expects to have your isolation when it serves you. AGAIN, we must be tolerant of you while you show no tolerance at all.

Just for the heck of it I googled GAY CHRISTIAN DATING SERVICES to see if this jerk had a valid point since they are hard to find. And lo and behold, 802,000 of them spring up. gay christian dating services - Google Search

So there was no discrimination here at all. There was no service he didn't have ready access to within his own community. This was just more of the homosexual agenda to target another straight organization and force acceptance under the guise of either equality or discrimination in order to further your goal of infiltrating every aspect of our world.

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Hebrews 11:3
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A great civilization is not conquered from without, until it destroys itself from within.-Durant

Do I seriously have to explain the difference inbetween the PRODUCT and the CUSTOMERS???

No. It's not like "French Restaurant serving Italian".
If a dating service said "We're only going to match Christians to Christians, and non-Christians to non-Christians", would you recognize THAT as discriminatory? Or White to White, and everybody else can do what they want?

How about if a restaurant refused to seat blacks and whites at the same table. If an interracial couple came in, they would have to sit in different sections.

It's discrimination Archie.
We're not talking about a MENU item here. We're talking about PEOPLE who ARE CUSTOMERS.


1) Quite frankly, by this ruling if a "gay only" service existed, it needs to serve both gay and straight.
A straight person COULD EASILY take the gay service to court and demand such a change, with this case as an applicable precedent.
2) If you seriously think there are 990,000 gay dating services out there, then you REALLY NEED TO LOOK at those links that come up in google.
Here's some of those links:
Michelle Malkin eHarmony forced to offer same-sex dating services; Update: And now, a class-action lawsuit
So I guess Michelle Malkin is doing gay dating now, eh?
Private Company Forced to Offer Gay Dating Service (Mexican, campaign, legal) - Politics and Other Controversies - City-Data Forum
eHarmony to Provide Gay Dating Service After Lawsuit
Suit forces eHarmony to offer gay dating service :: WRAL.com

The vast majority of those links are NOT to "gay dating services".
Google includes news articles, web forums talking about "gay dating services", and other junk in their search replies.


1) You mean demographics like blacks, or Jews, or women?
As difficult as it may be for you to accept, our country has a LONG HISTORY of forcing "private businesses" to include demographics that the owner is prejudiced against.

2) I never said what my position on this story is.
I simply explained to you what "discrimination" was existing.


That's a false assumption.
1) People like you need to STOP defining the word "discrimination" based on whether or not you ACCEPT the "act" that is being questioned as "discriminatory" or not.
It IS discrimination for "Christian (only) dating services".
Whether it is LEGAL discrimination is an entirely different question.

It IS possible to have discrimination that is LEGAL in our society.
The Boy Scouts discriminate against girls, gays, and atheists.
But it's legal.

2) Just because nobody has sued those other organizations doesn't mean that it's legal.
The 14th amendment was the cornerstone of Loving v Virginia.
The 14th amendment was passed ONE HUNDRED YEARS before Loving v Virginia.
Lawsuits take time for a variety of reasons. Injustices and unconstitutionalities can exist for decades before they are addressed.


And we're back to the "separate drinking fountains" approach.
After all, that provides a "service" that the preson has "ready access" to, doesn't it?

The existence of alternative options DOES NOT address the justifiableness of discrimination.
If one "whites only" bakery was surrounded by TWO HUNDRED "whites and blacks" bakeries, it wouldn't make the "white only" bakery legal.


Just because an organization serves both gays and straights doesn't mean squat about "acceptance".
In my partner's line of works, he has served all kinds of people he doesn't accept.
Some people need to realize that not discriminating does not mean "acceptance".

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It is true that I disapprove of Christianity because as a religion, or as a church, it is generally bigoted against gay people. There are a few, a pitiful few Christian exceptions. Of course, I do not believe that you are a typical Christian. Your version is particularly bigoted against gays, others are less so.

This is a distinction without a difference. One might as well say that one opposes dark skin on moral grounds without being bigoted against dark-skinned people. Black people can't help being black; I can't help being gay.

Here you justify bigotry because Christians have always been bigoted, so apparently they needn't change.

Sorry sweetie, but you are the only one claiming special rights. You claim the special right that your religion become part of the law to enact your bigotry against those who do not share your squalid religious beliefs.

Sorry, but this rant is unjustified. Your religion's bigotry is constitutionally protected. It's your evil attempt to make your religion a theocratic one that is being opposed.

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Wrong again lesz. There are no moral grounds with which to oppose blacks based on their skin color. But the bible specifically condemns the homosexual act of same gender sex. That is what I oppose. I have nothing personally against you at all. In fact I sympathize with you and have empathy for your spiritual condition. You can refer to me as bigoted or homophobic all day long for all I care. But you are just exposing your own bigotry and hatred for anyone who disagrees with your immoral lifestyle on scriptural grounds.

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If god made human from dirt, how come there are still dirt around?- [obvious_child]

If the universe were not as it is, it would be different.-[Penfold]-

Hebrews 11:3
3 By faith we understand that the universe was created by the word of God, so that what is seen was not made out of things that are visible.

A great civilization is not conquered from without, until it destroys itself from within.-Durant

Sweetie, the bible condemns the children of Ham, which is why white Christians have used the bible as an excuse for racial bigotry. I do not sympathise with your spiritual condition. I lament it. Your religious lifestyle is an abomination to gay people. I don't need scriptural grounds to come to that conclusion. Just reason.

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Why am I not surprised that you would use the same corrupted interpretation of the bible that the KKK, skinheads, white aryans and every other white supremacist group have ever used to justify their hatred and bigotry against black people. You are just as bigoted and ignorant as they are also.

And I can understand why you consider my religious lifestyle as an abomination to homosexuals because the darkness hates the light and you define spiritual darkness. And nothing you hold to in your life is based on reason at all lesz. It is founded in lust, selfishness and hatred for anyone who has a moral compass to guide their lives, and opposes what your lifestyle represents.

We are total opposites in all ways, and as much as you hate me, I love you which is why I share the truth that God loves you in spite of your lifestyle which is an offense to Him. It is possible to love someone and hate what they do lesz. Just look at any family that has a heroin addict or a non-functioning alcoholic in it.

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And speaking of quotable quotes...
If god made human from dirt, how come there are still dirt around?- [obvious_child]

If the universe were not as it is, it would be different.-[Penfold]-

Hebrews 11:3
3 By faith we understand that the universe was created by the word of God, so that what is seen was not made out of things that are visible.

A great civilization is not conquered from without, until it destroys itself from within.-Durant

Thank you, dear, for all your love. With love like that, who needs enemies? Actually, I regard your religious beliefs as a form of debilitating addiction every bit as bad as alcoholism... maybe there's a 12-step program for religioholics somewhere. I mention that in the spirit of true love for you as a person. It's not you I revile, it's your ideological, anti-gay baggage which you choose to carry. I choose not to enable you or pretend that I don't see what is so clearly before me.

May you one day find the light, but you only will if you choose to put all that religious baggage down and step into it. Until you do, you have chosen the same side as the "KKK, skinheads, white aryans and every other white supremacist group" that also revile gay people. Your religious harassment of homos is kin to their tactics.

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I submit it the homosexual who needs the 12 step program lesz, and it isn't my community who is infringing upon all people attempting to redefine what is right, normal and moral for them to do but is your community which is driven to remake our society in your image. But unfortunately, you are blind to that fact. All christians and the traditionalists are guilty of doing is attempting to preserve that which you are so dedicated to tearing down in our social order, and for that, you consider us enemies.

How terrible we must be to resist and work against a 4% minority of our population who seeks to remake our society in their perverted and distorted lifestyles image. It's truly unforgivable in your very small, self serving and very militant mind isn't it, lesz.

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And speaking of quotable quotes...
If god made human from dirt, how come there are still dirt around?- [obvious_child]

If the universe were not as it is, it would be different.-[Penfold]-

Hebrews 11:3
3 By faith we understand that the universe was created by the word of God, so that what is seen was not made out of things that are visible.

A great civilization is not conquered from without, until it destroys itself from within.-Durant

I am sorry you are addicted to such an evil religion. Your rabid rant that I wish to remake society in my image is merely a mark of your own derangement. All I actually ask is that society refrains from persecuting gays because your evil religion demands it. That's not much of a remake.

I certainly don't demand that everyone becomes gay; neither do I demand that Christians be persecuted or denied equal rights. YOU, buddy, are the only one demanding that the rights of gay people be curtailed, bercause your evil religion demands it.

You represent a tiny minority of religious zealots who demand a theocracy. Sorry, but you aren't all that popular these days. Your loss, and my gain.

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All philosophy is post hoc rationalisation.