Why do they spend so much time trying to supress turnout then? Oh wait, it's only when the voters are poor and/or have dark skin that they do that... if they can get the fundies and the rednecks out then they do well.

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You accuse others of not looking at your stuff, when the truth is that you don't look at the links of others.
I ALREADY GAVE TWO LINKS discussing McCain's desired restrictions.
One GOP Senator said McCain's coal proposals "will put coal out of business".

You just run around "blah, blah, blah" but you don't READ or THINK about what other people are saying.


When you pay attention to ONE, maybe I'll consider limiting myself.
Until then, your complaint masks the fact that you NEVER ANSWERED MY QUESTION!!!!


I never said that.
The same standard would apply to that as well.
Do you think people find his approach more believable when he acts like that???


I am talking to YOU about YOUR actions.
If you want to talk to ME about MY actions, then do so.
In doing so, you'll need to show ME where I showed "no respect for McCain".

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Do people ever research this stuff before they post it?
National Voter Turnout in Federal Elections: 1960–2008 — Infoplease.com
The two highest turnouts in the last two decades were 1992 and 2004.
That was electing Clinton, and electing Bush.

And then you have 2006 which had a record turnout in a non-presidential year, and THAT CLEARLY favored the Democrats.

It's somewhere inbetween a toss-up, or you've got 2 out of 3 significant points that favor democrats over republicans.

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Oh dear god you refuse to recognize proof when it is handed to you.
The Coal Miners GROUP GAVE the rest of the context, fully explaining the point!
THAT is what makes it "innaccurate (sic)"



Her "not hearing it" is irrelevant.
She INSTIGATED this junk with her "palling around with terrorists" junk.
SHE "pals around with secessionists" who openly admit they hate the U.S.



Tell you what.
YOU claimed it was in a speech, so YOU provide your proof.

No! Scratch that. You'll never do that.
And you're too stupid to realize that THE ALREADY PROVIDED AUDIO LINK already gave the "proof".
LISTEN to the audio link.
You hear ANOTHER PERSON ASKING Obama a question, then he answers it.
That's called an "interview" Ethmi!



As soon as you can answer the same question for McCain, I'll take that seriously...


????????????????????????????????
YOU CONDEMN OBAMA FOR ACTIONS THAT MCCAIN HIMSELF SUPPORTS!!!
YOU CONDEMN OBAMA FOR ACTIONS THAT MCCAIN HIMSELF SUPPORTS!!!
YOU CONDEMN OBAMA FOR ACTIONS THAT MCCAIN HIMSELF SUPPORTS!!!
YOU CONDEMN OBAMA FOR ACTIONS THAT MCCAIN HIMSELF SUPPORTS!!!

What don't you get about that?


From your post, it is obvious that you are not only ignoring MY links, but you aren't even really listening to THE ORIGINAL link which prompted this thread.


What the heck are you talking about?
Is this yet another baseless claim you toss out there to try to gain ground on imaginary complaints?


I didn't misquote you....
Anybody with half a brain will realize that "blah, blah, blah" was NOT part of your quote.


[quote=Ethmi]But this won't satisfy you to the point where you omit what I say. So You keep complaining about "omitting" stuff, but the truth is I only omit the mindless junk where you whine incessantly without point.
I already listened to that stupid link.
I already told you that they took him out of context.
I pointed out that the Coal Miners Union pointed out the FULL context.


Okay. NOW THINK about this.
Try to put that brain into something beyond "Obama bad, Obama bad, Obama bad, Obama bad, Obama bad, Obama bad, blah, blah, blah" mode...

If you had a business that was thinking about building a coal power plant, and then they looked at the cost vs benefit expenses, and the "expense" was monumental to the point of (hypothetically) putting them out of business if they tried to build it, WOULD IT MAKE SENSE to build it?

Suppose Susie Q wanted to build a new lemonade stand. She has hundreds of them, but she wants to build one new one.
The government is imposing a "Lemon tax" so after spending the cost for building the lemonade stand, expenses (with lemon tax) will amount to $250 per month, and she expects to pull in only $50 per month.
Will Susie Q build that lemonade stand?????
The obvious answer is no.

BUT SHE STILL HAS THE HUNDREDS OF OTHER LEMONADE STANDS...
Susie Q simply does not make the choice that will not be business intelligent.


Has it registered in your brain that MCCAIN WAS RECOMMENDING THE SAME THING?????
Has it registered in your brain that MCCAIN WAS RECOMMENDING THE SAME THING?????
Has it registered in your brain that MCCAIN WAS RECOMMENDING THE SAME THING?????
Has it registered in your brain that MCCAIN WAS RECOMMENDING THE SAME THING?????

You guys keep talking "gloom and doom" like the sky will fall, and that Obama will act like Godzilla destroying anything in his path, but when McCain talks about the SAME LEGISLATIVE ACTION, you can't be bothered...

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What are you talking about? Examples?

Like the Black Panthers bullying voters in voting halls?

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If you're trying to liken the Republican party to the mentality and approach of the Black Panther...
Wow. Not even I would have gone there...

And as for "examples", are you serious?
There have been multiple examples of this all over the news. SCOTUS had a court case recently where the Repubs lost on late purging antics.
republican voter purging - Google Search

Here's one involving extreme last minute "voter challenging"
State to notify 4,770 their votes are ‘challenged’

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Incidentally, it looks like Pennsylvania's gone for Obama by about 66% at the moment.
I guess they didn't by into the last minute desperation act by McCain...

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[quote=foundit66;331150]If you're trying to liken the Republican party to the mentality and approach of the Black Panther...
Wow. Not even I would have gone there...

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And trying to disqualify thousands of US forces votes in Va.
And the homeless voting 'tour busses'
And "same day registration
And opposing requiring ANY for of ID for voting.

Yeah, its the Pubs who cheat! You must be the kool-aid queen!

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1) "disqualify US forces vote"?
Got a link?

2) "homeless voting"?
Got a link?

3) "Same day registration"?
How the heck is that "cheating"?
It could be USED for cheating, but then again a car can be used to kill somebody.
Doesn't mean we outlaw driving cars. We just enforce the laws that prevent murder.

4) "any ID for voting"?
I would be for that as long as we required the government to give out free forms of ID.
For people who don't drive and don't have a driver's license, this is just an extra imposition on them.

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Foundit- Life is an imposition. Voting is a privilege and a responsibility. Since there are groups like acorn et al. trying to cheat, people should have to prove who they are before they vote and should register ahead of time. If you can't do that, you shouldn't be able to vote, you shouldn't count, and you shouldn't be able to cancel out the votes of people who take the time to be a responsible citizen.

Point 1.Virginia election officials appointed by Democrat Governor Tim Kaine have been trying to ... The ones trying to disqualify military votes was the dems. ...Va Dems Trying To Disqualify Military Absentee Ballots - Politics, News and Sports - AOL Message Boards

Point 1 cont.--In Florida the Dems disqualified military votes in 2004 by claiming they did not have a US Postal ... Too many military voters in VA to ignore this one. Military Votes Being Tossed Again | Black & Right

Points 2 & 3. CLEVELAND - Volunteers supporting Barack Obama picked up hundreds of people at homeless shelters, soup kitchens and drug-rehab centers and drove them to a polling place yesterday on the last day that Ohioans could register and vote on the same day, almost no questions asked.
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[quote=CUNxTime;331269]Those grapes really ARE sour, aren't they?

Give it up!

Your boy and Governor Gidget lost.


If you are rich, old chap, get ready to dig a little deeper in your pocket to pay the rent for the running of the country.

Again with this ACORN nonsense.
ACORN was shown to have voter REGISTRATION fraud.
I have never seen ANYBODY show any actual vote cast improperly by ACORN fraud.


The first response on that thread says it all...

If they do not meet the standards of every other non-military absentee ballot, they should be disqualified.

I find it funny that you are fighting to prevent "voter fraud", but you balk at a requirement imposed upon the military for independent verification of a proper vote...
What? If they're expected to vote Republican, you don't care if the voter fraud standards are lax?


2004, and I whole-heartedly disagreed with the approach the Democrats (Gore) used there.


I don't understand the complaint.
They are U.S. citizens, aren't they?
They have a right to vote.

And your link is to some soft-core porn. Not to a story on the above description.

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