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What is your own personal list of logical reasons for Hillary's not releasing her tax returns and for her not releasing her record of personal notes from the White House years?
Can you successfully argue against the claim that release of those items might cause some people who blindly support her to do otherwise?
If she waits until after the election, it will be too late to matter. I suppose the information contained in those papers would be embarassing to Bill and Hillary. That's why they keep them under wraps.
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Just what business does the American public have in her tax returns and personal notes? Why should she have to release them at all (assuming we are speaking of her personal returns and that not of any business or campaign funds).Originally Posted by isly ilwott
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I don't see why she should release her tax returns. I looked at Obama's and the only thing of note was that his wife made more than him (not surprising given his wife's job). His schedule D wasn't really eye opening. I suppose that looking at Hillary's schedule D would be of note, but anyone who hasn't realized she's in bed with the lobbyists and corporate America is pretty ignorant and stupid. Seeing a Schedule D full of holdings that only reinforce that isn't all that important.
Her notes though, those are questionable in the same way that Dean locked 200+ boxes up before he entered the 2004 race.
"You are, of course, free to make your own calls on how much rationality you want to impose upon yourself." - Kronus
News reports say the Clinton tax return will be released tax time, April 15th. Nothing unusual about that.
In the meantime, Jack Nicholson, one of my favorite actors of all time, has released something more interesting, his own commercial supporting Hillary Clinton:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6mOa3sXjqE4
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So she's already released her 2006 tax returns from last April 15th? Well, no, she hasn't. She said in the debate last week that she would work on it. I guess it's a really, really big job. Let's see. What would it entail? Calling one's accountant, or perhaps directing one's aide to call one's accountant and say, "Please provide a copy of my tax return from last year to the press". Or maybe she communicates with her tax accountant in some other manner that requires more "work", smokes signals or mental telepathy perhaps?
But waiting until April is not customary. In the 2004 Democratic primary, Governor Dean, Rep. Kucinich, Senator Lieberman, and Senator Edwards released their tax returns in April of 2003 – a full year earlier in the primary process. Senator Kerry released his tax returns in December of 2003, and General Clark released his tax returns in January of 2004.
Senator Clinton’s refusal to make this very basic disclosure has raised a number of eyebrows among advocates for increased transparency. As her top Ohio supporter Governor Ted Strickland said in his 2006 campaign, if a candidate is not releasing his or her “tax return, what is he hiding? We should question what’s going on.”http://firstread.msnbc.msn.com/archi...29/717817.aspx
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While you follow me around ... and desperately post to anything I say, the day before the big one ... just so you know, I am not voting for your candidate. (wink wink)
Who should be contributing 10% of his million per year (at least $100,000 annually, likely more) to a church that gave Louis Farrakhan a Lifetime Achievement Award. http://www.associatedcontent.com/art...orsnation.html
Read about Louis Farrakhan in his own words (on Jews, the Holocaust, homosexuals, "mainstream blacks", "whites", et al.):
http://www.adl.org/special_reports/f..._own_words.asp
http://www.splcenter.org/intel/intel...le.jsp?aid=712
Now run along, dear, with your tax witchhunt. He may indeed win the nomination. That's all. (wink wink)
It's no big secret that the Clintons are filthy rich, with folks like yourself and Ken Starr and the entire Republican Party breathing down their necks; and thus, have to cross every t and dot every i. For many, many years now.
If it's 2006 you want, I'm sure everything is above board. And I bet their contributions are to much more worthy causes, too. Not to mention much more substantial.
Back to Jack.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6mOa3sXjqE4
Last edited by antonia; 03-04-2008 at 12:42 AM.
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This is not a discussion of the faults of Barrack Obama.
Why is Hillary keeping these things from us?
It would be quite simple to put thoughtful voter's minds at ease regarding where her loyalties and obligations lie. Do you suppose it might reveal some hard-to-explain contributions from the Chinese to Hillary's war chest, making it all the more likely she'll sell them more and more of our military technologies after she's elected house mother of the Fraternity?
The release of her personal White House notes would certainly prove that she did next to nothing while there, as opposed to her unsupported claim that she gained valuable experience to enable her to be the best candidate for Commander in Chief. These notes might also give a glint into her true dreams of the future. Why should she be afraid to show us these things?
I say it is because these things would be damaging to her efforts to get elected...and she knows it all too well. So does her Political-Trophy "husband", Bill.
If you are sure that her 2006 return is above board, please tell me where you saw a copy of it to make sure...or did you just hear that it probably is, based on her history of complete unadulterated honesty? (Think...Rose Law Firm Papers)
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Augumentum celebritatum:
Not only does Jack Nicholson not represent a large group of people, he has no better insight regarding who should be President than does our building janitor. I fail to see the value of the opinions of the likes of Sean Penn, Richard Gere, Barbra Streisand, Jack Nicholson or any other actor/singer/comedian/producer/director/filmologists/writer/best boy grip/assistant to Mr. Brando/historian/newscaster/poet/athlete/CEO or chauffeur. Who cares what these people think?
It is interesting he introduces the ad as "The Joker", and then puts in plugs from a drunk, a mentally unstable soldier, a dopehead and other strange characters he has played.
These characters fit right in with the Hillary Circus Band.
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It's clear to me that you are rather desperately in need of facts and direction!
Senator Obama hasn't released his 2007 tax returns yet, but in 2006 he gave $22,500 to his church. Yes, the same church that gave Louis Farrakhan a lifetime achievement ward. Yes, and the same Louis Farrakhan that Senator Obama has denounced and rejected.
Witchhunt? I've just been wondering where the tax return is that Mrs. Clinton said she would "work" on releasing. She's still toiling apparently.
A lifelong committed Democrat, someone who will vote for her if she's the Democratic nominee? Is that what you mean by folks like me?
You left out a number of others there today in Texas and Ohio, wearing Hillary buttons, along with Ted Danson, Mary Steenburgen, Melanie Griffith ...
That it bothers you, isly, shows.
Typical humorless sorehead Republican comment. All you ever get are the likes of that guy doing kung fu in a cowboy hat. And he's not even a good actor.
Last edited by antonia; 03-04-2008 at 04:26 PM.
You sound like a real phony.
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No. A phony phony maybe, but not a real phony.
Hillary is the real phony (oxymoron) and you just can't admit it.
She's hiding her true past from us because she's knows we are not stupid and she knows we won't smile upon what we read of her. This is a United States Presidential Election we're talking about, not the Mayorship of some dinky little town or the Senatorship of some State that she's hardly ever been a part of in the past. She could be easily recalled from those positions if determined to be continuing her lies and deceptions. The Office of President is held to much higher standards than are required in the Arkansas Governor's Mansion.
What you say can and will be used against you.
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It wouldn't matter to me if every Hollywood star alive came out for Hillary. She's still a liar and undeserving of a spot on the ballot.
Liberal Hollywood actors are simply in the spotlight and appeal to the lesser known people by way of their celebrity status and not because of their good sense. Just because someone likes Ted Danson's character on Cheers does not mean that Ted is worthy of judging the true character of Hillary Clinton.
I'll have to agree with isly. It makes no difference to me what these self-appointed "experts" have to say about politics. Their opinions count less to me than does that of our building janitor.
Standing with the celebrities is not going to make you one of them.
What you say can and will be used against you.
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Well, let's just point out, now that April is here, and Hillary's tax returns were released, that this is yet another suspicion-without-foundation thread, by the Hillary-haters. As her returns were released showing no foul play and 10 million dollars to charities.
Thus, yet another unfounded allegation shown not to be.
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I haven't seen any reviews of her tax return. Where might I find one? Have you seen a copy?Well, let's just point out, now that April is here, and Hillary's tax returns were released, that this is yet another suspicion-without-foundation thread, by the Hillary-haters. As her returns were released showing no foul play and 10 million dollars to charities.
Thus, yet another unfounded allegation shown not to be.
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