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    Quote Originally Posted by Easyrider View Post
    You're full of manure, just like your father, the devil.

    I spent 5 years clothing and feeding the poor and preaching the Gospel of Jesus Christ in a men's homeless shelter. And never accepted a penny for any of it. You spent the last five years running your big fat mouth and denying Christ. You Spawn of Satan. How then can you possibly be saved, unless you GET OFF YOUR THRONE AND LET CHRIST ON IT, and repent of your sins?

    So repent, or you will indeed be a Hell-bound Christ denier!
    Wow. That really cute, easy. You really want to compare charitable acts with somebody who actually believes that it is actually their personal responsibility to help the poor? I will stick to the last 10 years and only hit the bigger ones. I started and ran a food kitchen that serves over 800 meals a DAY. For the first 6 years I funded the entire thing out of pocket. I bought the building. I bought 4 vans so we could deliver meals to people who could not come in to get them. 3 years into that venture there was a really bad period here economically where 2 major factories closed and another cut their staff by 2/3...laying off over 1000 middle class workers. Families were losing their homes and having to live in their cars. I started a temporary housing for displaced families project. I bought the first 9 houses myself...out of pocket...paid for all necessary repairs and rented them out for anywhere from $0 to $100 per month to families in need...all utilities included. I funded playgrounds at 3 pre schools...and installed the playground equipment myself. I funded, and volunteered labor, for renovation, cleanup, and reclamation of 2 parks in the poor end of the nearest city (yep....I dont even live in the town I have done ANY of this stuff in). I have bought a bookmobile, and stocked it, for inner city kids and I drive it one day a week. 2 days a week I spend putting together bags full of food for inner city kids because I found out from a friend at an inner city school district told me that a lot of the poor kids there eat ALL their meals at school and do not even get to eat on the weekends.

    Those are just the big ones. I hand out more cash in anonymous donations and spend more money through third party intermediaries every month than our local catholic church collects in the offering tray all year.

    And do you know how much of this stuff my name is on? None of it. You know why? Because it is nothing to be proud of. It is simply my duty to my god. It is the bare minimum he expects from me.

    So, great, you spent time in a homeless shelter. Kudos to you
    If ye love wealth greater than liberty, the tranquility of servitude greater than the animating contest for freedom, go home from us in peace. We seek not your counsel, nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you; May your chains set lightly upon you, and may posterity forget that ye were our countrymen. —Samuel Adams

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    Quote Originally Posted by daewoo View Post
    Wow. That really cute, easy. You really want to compare charitable acts with somebody who actually believes that it is actually their personal responsibility to help the poor? I will stick to the last 10 years and only hit the bigger ones. I started and ran a food kitchen that serves over 800 meals a DAY. For the first 6 years I funded the entire thing out of pocket. I bought the building. I bought 4 vans so we could deliver meals to people who could not come in to get them. 3 years into that venture there was a really bad period here economically where 2 major factories closed and another cut their staff by 2/3...laying off over 1000 middle class workers. Families were losing their homes and having to live in their cars. I started a temporary housing for displaced families project. I bought the first 9 houses myself...out of pocket...paid for all necessary repairs and rented them out for anywhere from $0 to $100 per month to families in need...all utilities included. I funded playgrounds at 3 pre schools...and installed the playground equipment myself. I funded, and volunteered labor, for renovation, cleanup, and reclamation of 2 parks in the poor end of the nearest city (yep....I dont even live in the town I have done ANY of this stuff in). I have bought a bookmobile, and stocked it, for inner city kids and I drive it one day a week. 2 days a week I spend putting together bags full of food for inner city kids because I found out from a friend at an inner city school district told me that a lot of the poor kids there eat ALL their meals at school and do not even get to eat on the weekends.

    Those are just the big ones. I hand out more cash in anonymous donations and spend more money through third party intermediaries every month than our local catholic church collects in the offering tray all year.

    And do you know how much of this stuff my name is on? None of it. You know why? Because it is nothing to be proud of. It is simply my duty to my god. It is the bare minimum he expects from me.

    So, great, you spent time in a homeless shelter. Kudos to you
    Maybe god will have a help-the-poor off between you two.

    I am getting a really interesting picture of you, mad-philanthropist by day; funding your god-driven acts by night with fraud.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Freedom View Post
    Maybe god will have a help-the-poor off between you two.

    I am getting a really interesting picture of you, mad-philanthropist by day; funding your god-driven acts by night with fraud.
    Doubt it.

    Fraud? Me? Where in the world did you get that idea?
    If ye love wealth greater than liberty, the tranquility of servitude greater than the animating contest for freedom, go home from us in peace. We seek not your counsel, nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you; May your chains set lightly upon you, and may posterity forget that ye were our countrymen. —Samuel Adams

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    Quote Originally Posted by daewoo View Post
    Wow. That really cute, easy. You really want to compare charitable acts with somebody who actually believes that it is actually their personal responsibility to help the poor? I will stick to the last 10 years and only hit the bigger ones. I started and ran a food kitchen that serves over 800 meals a DAY. For the first 6 years I funded the entire thing out of pocket. I bought the building. I bought 4 vans so we could deliver meals to people who could not come in to get them. 3 years into that venture there was a really bad period here economically where 2 major factories closed and another cut their staff by 2/3...laying off over 1000 middle class workers. Families were losing their homes and having to live in their cars. I started a temporary housing for displaced families project. I bought the first 9 houses myself...out of pocket...paid for all necessary repairs and rented them out for anywhere from $0 to $100 per month to families in need...all utilities included. I funded playgrounds at 3 pre schools...and installed the playground equipment myself. I funded, and volunteered labor, for renovation, cleanup, and reclamation of 2 parks in the poor end of the nearest city (yep....I dont even live in the town I have done ANY of this stuff in). I have bought a bookmobile, and stocked it, for inner city kids and I drive it one day a week. 2 days a week I spend putting together bags full of food for inner city kids because I found out from a friend at an inner city school district told me that a lot of the poor kids there eat ALL their meals at school and do not even get to eat on the weekends.

    Those are just the big ones. I hand out more cash in anonymous donations and spend more money through third party intermediaries every month than our local catholic church collects in the offering tray all year.

    And do you know how much of this stuff my name is on? None of it. You know why? Because it is nothing to be proud of. It is simply my duty to my god. It is the bare minimum he expects from me.

    So, great, you spent time in a homeless shelter. Kudos to you
    Well good for you too. That is admiral.

    You say it is your duty to God. That's correct. Which God do you believe in?
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    Quote Originally Posted by daewoo View Post
    Doubt it.

    Fraud? Me? Where in the world did you get that idea?
    You said you shut down your company and told your clients there was a lack of supply.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Freedom View Post
    You said you shut down your company and told your clients there was a lack of supply.
    There was a lack of supply. Any fool could see that. The piles were getting smaller and no new product was coming off the end of the belt.

    Where is the fraud?
    If ye love wealth greater than liberty, the tranquility of servitude greater than the animating contest for freedom, go home from us in peace. We seek not your counsel, nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you; May your chains set lightly upon you, and may posterity forget that ye were our countrymen. —Samuel Adams

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    Quote Originally Posted by daewoo View Post
    There was a lack of supply. Any fool could see that. The piles were getting smaller and no new product was coming off the end of the belt.

    Where is the fraud?
    Did you tell the full truth when asked why the prices were going up and whether they would return to normal (and yes you were asked unless you are just making it up).
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    Quote Originally Posted by Freedom View Post
    Did you tell the full truth when asked why the prices were going up and whether they would return to normal (and yes you were asked unless you are just making it up).
    I can count the number of times somebody asked me why prices were going up on one hand. Yes. I always told them the truth. Supply shortage. Prices go up. It is what they do. The american public has been well trained to accept that without asking too many questions. Nobody has ever asked me if they were going to return to "normal". If they did, the answer would have always been "I dont know" because my pricing was based on my competitors prices. I dont run their pricing strategy.
    If ye love wealth greater than liberty, the tranquility of servitude greater than the animating contest for freedom, go home from us in peace. We seek not your counsel, nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you; May your chains set lightly upon you, and may posterity forget that ye were our countrymen. —Samuel Adams

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    BTW....

    Have you never noticed that refineries all seem to go down for maintenance at the same time...typically resulting in a fuel price increase?

    This is capitalism at its finest.
    If ye love wealth greater than liberty, the tranquility of servitude greater than the animating contest for freedom, go home from us in peace. We seek not your counsel, nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you; May your chains set lightly upon you, and may posterity forget that ye were our countrymen. —Samuel Adams

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    In post # 61 you wrote: "It is simply my duty to my god."

    Once again, who is your God?
    “For the scientist who has lived by his faith in the power of reason, the story ends like a bad dream. He has scaled the mountains of ignorance; he is about to conquer the highest peak; as he pulls himself over the final rock, he is greeted by a band of theologians who have been sitting there for centuries.” - Robert Jastrow

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    Quote Originally Posted by Easyrider View Post
    In post # 61 you wrote: "It is simply my duty to my god."

    Once again, who is your God?
    That is a more complex question than I am prepared to get into to satisfy a snarky response from somebody who just got their XXX handed to them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Easyrider View Post
    You're full of manure, just like your father, the devil.

    I spent 5 years clothing and feeding the poor and preaching the Gospel of Jesus Christ in a men's homeless shelter. And never accepted a penny for any of it. You spent the last five years running your big fat mouth and denying Christ. You Spawn of Satan. How then can you possibly be saved, unless you GET OFF YOUR THRONE AND LET CHRIST ON IT, and repent of your sins?

    So repent, or you will indeed be a Hell-bound Christ denier!
    Wait, you know Daewoo? Close personal friends? Stalker? I'm just curious about how you know what he did the last 5 years.

    Perhaps Daewoo is not the one needing to get off a throne.

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    Quote Originally Posted by daewoo View Post
    That is a more complex question than I am prepared to get into to satisfy a snarky response from somebody who just got their XXX handed to them.
    <Flush>

    Translation: You can't document your so-called "god."

    You can take pot shots at the Biblical God all day long, but when it comes time for you to put up you dodge the challenge.

    But go ahead and make my day and let me know who that bad boy is. We'll see if he/she/it can hold up to some critical scrutiny as in-depth as the Biblical God has undergone. You might want to go ahead and do that before you step off into eternity and find out you've been misled.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Steeeeve View Post
    Wait, you know Daewoo? Close personal friends? Stalker? I'm just curious about how you know what he did the last 5 years.

    Perhaps Daewoo is not the one needing to get off a throne.
    I have no idea what you're talking about. He told me what he did and I told him what I did. Go back and read the posts.

    What have you done?
    “For the scientist who has lived by his faith in the power of reason, the story ends like a bad dream. He has scaled the mountains of ignorance; he is about to conquer the highest peak; as he pulls himself over the final rock, he is greeted by a band of theologians who have been sitting there for centuries.” - Robert Jastrow

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    Quote Originally Posted by Easyrider View Post
    <Flush>

    Translation: You can't document your so-called "god."

    You can take pot shots at the Biblical God all day long, but when it comes time for you to put up you dodge the challenge.

    But go ahead and make my day and let me know who that bad boy is. We'll see if he/she/it can hold up to some critical scrutiny as in-depth as the Biblical God has undergone. You might want to go ahead and do that before you step off into eternity and find out you've been misled.
    Easy, you have just shown you DO NOT WORSHIP THE BIBLICAL GOD. That is pretty much what this entire thread has degenerated into....overwhelming proof that you do not worship the biblical god.

    The reality is that the "biblical god" is a psychopath and a nitwit. The list of mental problems that the "biblical god" has could fill a page. You could pretty much toss down a psychology text book and go "there you go...he has all of those".

    That is what makes biblical literalists such a joke. First of all, like you, most of them have not even bothered to study the book they claim is 100% the literal word of god well enough to even understand it....HINT....just reading the bible is not going to do it for you. The bible was written by different people, in a different time, with absolutely nothing in common with you, so unless you really study the customs, social hierarchy, and lives of those people, you have no frame of reference, so OF COURSE you are going to get it wrong.

    Then you have the problems that crop up in translation....problems that you should be WELL aware of since you seem to favor the NIV of the bible, which is universally acknowledged to be the LEAST accurate translation. No serious bible scholar would ever use it.

    The bible CANT be taken literally. It does not make any sense that way. None at all. In order to take it literally you literally either have to be too retarded to understand it, or you have to be delusional. A sane person cannot read it and draw logical conclusions from it as a whole from a literal sense....taken as a whole it is too contradictory to be logical.
    If ye love wealth greater than liberty, the tranquility of servitude greater than the animating contest for freedom, go home from us in peace. We seek not your counsel, nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you; May your chains set lightly upon you, and may posterity forget that ye were our countrymen. —Samuel Adams

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