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Old 03-20-2003, 04:01 PM
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What should we do about North Korea?

What should we do about North Korea and its leader, Kim Jong Il? North Korea has the fourth largest army in the world. North Korea has admitted to restarting its nuclear weapons program and may already have a few nuclear missiles. It also has chemical and biological weapons. North Korea was behind terrorist attacks in the 1980’s such as bombing of a Korean Airlines jet which resulted in the deaths of 115 people.

Kim Jong Il is an evil dictator. In recent years, millions have starved to death in North Korea. Despite this, Kim Jong Il lives a life of luxury. He spends $650,000- $720,000 a year on cognac, a type of brandy distilled from white wine. The average North Korean only earns $900 a year. Kim Jong Il is also famous for his pleasure team. His pleasure team consists of young girls who have the responsibility to entertain Kim Jong Il and satisfy his fantasies. In the past, North Korea has kidnapped young girls from other countries so that they can join the pleasure team. It is estimated that there are also about 200,000 people in Kim Jong Il’s prison camps. In these camps they beat, torture, and execute prisoners. Prisoners are used as guinea pigs to test biological and chemical weapons. Here are some quotations from my sources.

“Entire families, including grandchildren, are incarcerated for even the most bland political statements. Forced abortions are carried out on pregnant women so that another generation of political dissidents will be ‘eradicated.’ Inmates are used as human guinea pigs for testing biological and chemical agents, according to both former inmates and U.S. officials….‘And then, from time to time there a living infant is delivered. And then if someone delivers a live infant, then the guards kick the bloody baby and kill it. And I saw an infant who was crying with pain. I have to express this in words, that I witnessed such an inhumane hell.’ ”
http://www.msnbc.com/news/859191.asp?0cl=cR#BODY

“The confrontation started three months ago when the United States said North Korea admitted it was pursuing nuclear weapons in violation of a 1994 agreement…As unquestioned leader, Kim has lived a life of comfort and excess as his people boiled grass for food. More than 2 million North Koreans are believed to have died of famine from 1994 to 1997. Even now, 70% of the country's children are malnourished, says the Korean Welfare Foundation, a private aid group in Seoul.”
http://www.usatoday.com/news/world/2...ver-usat_x.htm

“As head of North Korea's special forces for much of the 70s and 80s, he has been linked by defectors to international terrorist activities, including the 1986 bombing of a Korean Airlines jet in which 115 people died.”
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/asi...ic/1907197.stm

“But what else do we know about this man who may already have two nuclear bombs and controls the fourth largest military in the world -- one million heavily armed forces only miles away from nearly 40,000 U.S. troops in South Korea? …Dr. Post, in his study of the Korean dictator, says Kim Jong Il also loves to drink a certain Hennessey cognac that sells for $630 a bottle in Korea. ‘He is the largest customer over the last 10 years, averaging between $650,000 and $720,000 a year in purchases -- while the average [North] Korean earns only about $900 a year.’…There are other strange details about this man, according to Dr. Post. ‘He's recruited these 'joy brigades,' where he finds these attractive young women as early as junior high to entertain senior officials.’ Kim Jong Il also lives in a seven-story ‘pleasure palace,’ Post says, ‘and sees himself as a great creative force.’ ”
http://edition.cnn.com/2003/US/01/08/wbr.kim.jong.il/

“Kim has shown a willingness to support terror in the past. He is credited with ordering the 1983 bombing of a South Korean delegation in Burma and the 1987 bombing of a South Korean airplane over the Andaman Sea, killing 115. Kim’s secret agents have kidnapped at least a hundred Japanese and South Koreans over the years, including, to indulge Kim’s cinema fancy, a prominent South Korean movie director.”
http://www.msnbc.com/news/855119.asp#BODY

“North Korea has a stockpile of 2,500 to 5,000 tons of chemical weapons and is believed to be capable of producing 1 ton of biological weapons annually, South Korea's Defense Ministry said yesterday…Pyongyang's army also has biological weapons involving 13 different lethal germs and viruses, the ministry said.”
http://www.washtimes.com/world/20020917-84317288.htm

“In order to please Kim Jong Il and his close associates, North Korea maintains a group of pleasure women, called the pleasure team at each specially prepared villa. The existence of the team was revealed to the outside world in the 1980s, when North Korea abducted a number of young women from Hong Kong, Maccao and Middle East countries in order to reinforce the pleasure team. The pleasure team is again broken down into a ‘satisfaction team,’ which performs the duty of providing sexual pleasure, a ‘happiness team,’ which conducts a massage service, and a ‘dancing team,’ which conducts and singing and dancing performances.”
http://www.fortunecity.com/meltingpo.../pers_cult.htm
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The thing is that he relies on US support for food and energy. He can't do anything for now. That is a difficult one... a million man army and they'll probably fight.
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Jeeze, this is one sick peice of XXXX. The only way I can see beating him with all his chemical/biological weapons is to isolate them, destroy them, and then use a bit of popoganda to get the N.Korean troops massed up and MOAB them into the floor. Then send in people to get rid of the leadership, and, as Emril would say, BAM! one liberated N.Korea
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I'm more for going to war with North Korea than I am for going to war with Iraq. At the very least, after we finish Iraq, we should pay a visit to the Korean Peninsula if Kim don't back down.
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Immatate Clinton. He made diplomatic Solutions with them. It wasn't until now that Kim JongIl was threatining us. Its because Bush called him an "Axis of Evil"
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The nuclear weapons program was in place soon after the Clinton agreement... it was a failure! They developed nuclear weapons under it!
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http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/asia-pacific/3060693.stm

"The US also appears to be preparing the ground for the interception of North Korean ships thought to be carrying illicit cargo, our correspondent says."

Anyone know anything more about this? If true, could this be the first step in the US stepping up its efforts against N. Korea?
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Old 07-12-2003, 01:08 PM
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Considering that they've been shipping missiles around it's not much of a surprise. If we don't stop the shipments we'll probably pay the price later..
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Considering that they've been shipping missiles around it's not much of a surprise. If we don't stop the shipments we'll probably pay the price later..
I'm really not so much interested in the fact that we are doing so but rather would like to hear from people what the ramafications of this could be. Have we already stopped some of their ships? How will they react to use confiscating illegal materials off their ship? Will this dramatically increase the risk of war in Korea? What response will North Korea have?

I guess it is being said now that in the next few months the North will be able to make an additional 6 nukes very soon. So if the US and the world are to do anything it would be foolish to wait for the North to get stronger. Are they now taking the first step towards escalating the situation in order to find justification to launch a war on North Korea?
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If North Korea starts a war they lose almost all of their food and oil. I see this for what it is, an attempt to get a few more dollars. Why would they start a war? They stand no chance, Kim loses everything.
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If North Korea starts a war they lose almost all of their food and oil. I see this for what it is, an attempt to get a few more dollars. Why would they start a war? They stand no chance, Kim loses everything.
I agree to a point that North Korea won't start a war themselves but they may force the US and UN to do so if they keep up what they are doing.

Also my guess is that Kim is so used to getting what he wants that he has lost his perception of reality. Who in their right mind would threaten the United States with nuclear war day and and day out for months and months? They have to know the US doesn't negotiate so well with terror threats like this so they will not get anything. So in my view they already stand no chance and Kim is risking losing everything so why does he persist?

He is either too proud to back down now or he is stupid enough to believe he can force the US into doing whatever he wants as he has nuclear weapons. The US cannot adopt this policy or every other poor nation around the world will get the same idea. Either Kim has to back down or he will have to be prepared to go to war. I doubt the US and the rest of the world is going to wait much longer since North Korea is close to their nuclear goals now. I find it amazing we haven't already retaliated or at least got this movement towards a war further along, unless we are planning a sneak pre-emptive strike that we just haven't heard about.
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