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    Christian Fundamentalist - NeoNazi slaughters 91

    Anders Behring Breivik who describes himself as a Right Wing Conservative Christian has been charged with bombing Oslo where 7 were killed and at least 10 are critically injured and killing 84 children on Utoeya.
    Apparently he was dressed in something that resembled a Norwegian police uniform with red piping.
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    The evidence just keeps piling up supporting the fact that religion is evil.

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    The evil is multiplied by rightwing ideology, nationalism, and guns.
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    Simply because a religious connection is claimed does not mean any such connection truly exists.

    The current ongoing investigation into these attacks means it is far too early to leap to claims about who did what or why they did it.

    Introducing an off topic point of discussion is not a practice that I find acceptable. However in this instance it may be justified. Immediately after the shooting of Gabriel Giffords in Tuscon Arizona on the day of January 8th, there was an immediate offense launched against the gun lobby of America, the Second Amendment, Glenn Beck, Sarah Palin, and conservatives in general. It was claimed Jared Loughner was a right wing extremist who was motivated by heated political rhetoric and bullseye symbols found on the internet. Those claims were debunked days later, but the left wing hatred for the right wing side was still remembered.

    And as has been stated in other areas of this board, there is sufficient proof that left wing liberals engage in terrorism as well.
    If one cannot have an argument without resorting to hyperbole, name calling and emotional rhetoric, then they have lost the argument from their first post.

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    Nowhere in the link does it state that he was a fundamentalist Christian and the Progress Party which he left in 2007 is a conservative liberal party not a neo Nazi political organisation.
    The only reference to right wing extremism was by a 'friend'.
    It sems more likely that he had mental problems..maybe exacerbated by steroids but we dont want to jump to conclusions do we?
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    Death toll rises to 92.
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    From the sounds of it he's rather proud of his actions and we'll probably get a long rant rant about why he did it.
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    The link says nothing about him being proud or of the expectation of a long rant.It just says that he describes himself as a nationalist according to the police.
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    What he is, is a nutcase.
    Richard Dawkins quote..
    .'I dont think its a very important question whether Jesus existed. Some historians.. MOST historians think he did.
    I dont really care, precisely because its petty. Maybe I've alluded to the possibilty that some historians think Jesus never existed. I take that back Jesus existed........

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    Conservatism and the right wing attract extreme nutcases. They welcome nutcases, especially if they have lots of guns and bullets and the lust to kill.
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    Quote Originally Posted by simone View Post
    Conservatism and the right wing attract extreme nutcases. They welcome nutcases, especially if they have lots of guns and bullets and the lust to kill.
    No Simone. Extremism on both sides attract nutcases.
    Richard Dawkins quote..
    .'I dont think its a very important question whether Jesus existed. Some historians.. MOST historians think he did.
    I dont really care, precisely because its petty. Maybe I've alluded to the possibilty that some historians think Jesus never existed. I take that back Jesus existed........

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    Lefties kick out the nutcases with the guns and bullets and the lust to kill. Then, we let all the remaining nutcases gather in their own corner so that they can babble amongst themselves.
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    Quote Originally Posted by simone View Post
    Lefties kick out the nutcases with the guns and bullets and the lust to kill. Then, we let all the remaining nutcases gather in their own corner so that they can babble amongst themselves.
    Where did that happen, in your dreams?

    Please note the word ' extreme'.
    Extreme lefties have been just as blood thirsty as extreme righties.
    Richard Dawkins quote..
    .'I dont think its a very important question whether Jesus existed. Some historians.. MOST historians think he did.
    I dont really care, precisely because its petty. Maybe I've alluded to the possibilty that some historians think Jesus never existed. I take that back Jesus existed........

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    Quote Originally Posted by simone View Post
    Conservatism and the right wing attract extreme nutcases. They welcome nutcases, especially if they have lots of guns and bullets and the lust to kill.
    There is nothing in the presented links to show any basis for your claims. Your position is irrelevant and unjustified.

    http://news.yahoo.com/gunmans-backgr...044701742.html

    ...But he didn't belong to any known factions in Norway's small and splintered extreme right movement, and had no criminal record except for some minor offenses, the police official told AP.

    "He hasn't been on our radar, which he would have been if was active in the neo-Nazi groups in Norway," he said.
    If one cannot have an argument without resorting to hyperbole, name calling and emotional rhetoric, then they have lost the argument from their first post.

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    Anyone who knows me also knows I love to slam The Religious Right Conservatives in this world but I don't see a connection in this case to any such Ideology. Just like the shooting in Arizona , can't we just lay the blame on the person responsible. Why does this guy have to be Conservative or Liberal, Muslim or Terrorist, Right or Left... Can't he just be a Wacko who committed a terrible crime against other human beings?. Guns had nothing to do with it.. Religion had nothing to do with it. He was just an extremely deranged individual who murdered a bunch of people.
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    He was active on NeoNazi websites and had come to the attention of Swedish authorities. He himself claims to be a conservative christian.
    Unless the nazi apologists can contradict his own claims the labels stand.
    The targets were political, he will have to make his political position clear in order to complete what he set out to do in the first place, that will inevitably take the form of a rant.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ripskar View Post
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    He was active on NeoNazi websites and had come to the attention of Swedish authorities. He himself claims to be a conservative christian.
    Unless the nazi apologists can contradict his own claims the labels stand.
    The targets were political, he will have to make his political position clearin order to complete what he set out to do in the first place, that will inevitably take the form of a rant.
    A conservative Christian is not necessarily a ' fundamentalist' and being active on a Nazi website does not mean that you a Nazi.
    You MAY be right but stating that he was a fundamental Christian and neo nazi and posting a link saying no such thing is a bit pathetic.
    Frantically googling to try to regain face is a bit desperate
    We will see in due course what his religious and political leanings were but whatever they are you still jumped the gun and posted a link that did not support your claim in the OP
    His targets were not ' political'.His targets were the victims of a deranged mind.
    Richard Dawkins quote..
    .'I dont think its a very important question whether Jesus existed. Some historians.. MOST historians think he did.
    I dont really care, precisely because its petty. Maybe I've alluded to the possibilty that some historians think Jesus never existed. I take that back Jesus existed........

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