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America is liberated from the scourge of the Sarah Palin.

Obviously, there must be some sort of investigation going on which will disclose something icky about Palin and she's getting out while the getting is good.
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America is liberated from the scourge of the Sarah Palin.

Obviously, there must be some sort of investigation going on which will disclose something icky about Palin and she's getting out while the getting is good.
*sheds a tear*

There's HOPE for the republican party.

Here I was, all ready to flee the US due to the horrible turns it had made. Electing some corrupt demagogue from the most corrupt city on Earth.
And the only opposition to that was in the hands of a babbling fool from the back woods...and she pulls a string of 'Hail Mary...full of grace, the lord is with thee' beeds...right out of her bung ('cause pentacostals mistake them too often for sex toys).
I hope she left for mental illness reasons and not because she was a hypacritical nutter with Obamanesque ethics.

Dance with me Simone.
And then let us sacrific some unborn children that someone with vision, moral fortitude and scruples along with a cast iron back bone takes the reins of the GOP.
I hear they have been working wonders on cloning and some vault must contain some genetic samples of the bestest little guy with a funny mustache that would fill that spot exactly.
Someone who can actually be 'born' in America and would have ability to hold a Nuremberg style rally that would rival Obama's inauguration.
And maybe, if we're lucky, we can get a dash of the genes of whoever can make the friggin' trains run on time. I always had a soft spot for those who promise effective mass transportation...and can deliver.

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You! You!

I've just found out that Sarah Palin is the mysterious woman you were secretly meeting in Argentina!

How dare you!
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It is interesting to note that even conservatives are perplexed and critical of her decision to quit. From Conservatives taken aback by Palin's decision to resign - CNN.com :
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By contrast, those on the political right acknowledged that they didn't know what to make of it.

Karl Rove, the "architect" of George W. Bush's successful presidential campaigns, said the resignation left many of Palin's fellow Republicans "a little perplexed."

"It's a risky strategy," Rove told "Fox News Sunday."

"Astounding," was the pronouncement by Republican Sen. Chuck Grassley of Iowa, and conservative columnist George Will said Palin was declaring herself a quitter.
Does this spell the end of her potential 2012 presidential run? I hope so. I would hate to see yet another Bush-like candidate run.

Republicans have a difficult decision to make about whether to stick with their far-right platform and approach or whether to go more moderate. Going more moderate might win them more of the swing votes but might lose some of the core Religious Right constituency. The only chance they really have is what they seem to be trying to do now - grosely distort and exaggerate Obama's presidential activities. So far, it doesn't seem to be working particularly well since his popularity has not diminished since February, remaining at its over sixty percent job approval status. If the economy turns around, and no new major stimulus packages get pushed through, then the exaggerated rhetoric about this year's deficit will die down (given the short attention span of the American people). As for health care, polls show that most Americans support having a system that will offer health care to the poor and most support health care reforms. The majority may not support the US being purely government run health care but, since that is not what Obama is presenting, that will only be an issue among the far right conservatives who dwell on paranoia instead of reality.

So, it doesn't look like the Republicans will come back into power anytime soon. Personally, I hope that they do turn more moderate (which is looking less probable as time goes on) since it would be nice to have a real choice again.
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America is liberated from the scourge of the Sarah Palin.
"Scourge"??? OMG she loves Alaska and the United States! She's only been married once! She believes that people should abstain from sex until they get married..., HOW COULD SHE??

AND IT GETS WORSE!!! She believes we should WORK for a living instead of waiting for the govt to spoon feed us!!

AND IT GETS WORSER!!! She doesn't like wasting tax payer dollars!!!!

For crying out loud SHE'S THE ANTI-CHRIST!! Run! Hide the children! Grab the food-stamps and protect yourselves!!!!

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It is interesting to note that even conservatives are perplexed and critical of her decision to quit. From Conservatives taken aback by Palin's decision to resign - CNN.com :


Does this spell the end of her potential 2012 presidential run? I hope so. I would hate to see yet another Bush-like candidate run.

Republicans have a difficult decision to make about whether to stick with their far-right platform and approach or whether to go more moderate. Going more moderate might win them more of the swing votes but might lose some of the core Religious Right constituency. The only chance they really have is what they seem to be trying to do now - grosely distort and exaggerate Obama's presidential activities. So far, it doesn't seem to be working particularly well since his popularity has not diminished since February, remaining at its over sixty percent job approval status. If the economy turns around, and no new major stimulus packages get pushed through, then the exaggerated rhetoric about this year's deficit will die down (given the short attention span of the American people). As for health care, polls show that most Americans support having a system that will offer health care to the poor and most support health care reforms. The majority may not support the US being purely government run health care but, since that is not what Obama is presenting, that will only be an issue among the far right conservatives who dwell on paranoia instead of reality.

So, it doesn't look like the Republicans will come back into power anytime soon. Personally, I hope that they do turn more moderate (which is looking less probable as time goes on) since it would be nice to have a real choice again.
Take a look at her career, this is classic Palin. Will it work?? Don't ask me I spend hours posting on website that has zero consequence on the things that really matter, but I think it's a bit pre-mature to count her out.

Do you really think the alarm over Obama's spending habits is "exaggerated rhetoric"??

When Bush left office the federal deficeit was about 480 billion before the stimulus, Obama's first budget was 1.5 trillion in the red....

Quick question..., 1 billion seconds is roughly 31 years..., How many years is a trillion seconds? Once you convert that to dollars..., do ya think there might be reason for concern???
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Take a look at her career, this is classic Palin. Will it work?? Don't ask me I spend hours posting on website that has zero consequence on the things that really matter, but I think it's a bit pre-mature to count her out.
I don't think that most people pay any attention to her earlier career habits. She gained popularity because of her personal attractiveness, charisma, and because she was saying the things that conservatives enjoyed hearing. Therefore, any mishaps she took in her career in the past were largely ignored by the public. However, now, she is very much in the public spotlight - especially with the possibility of her being a presidential contender in 2012. Any such mishaps are thus far more important than mishaps that she might have made in the past. It will be interesting to watch how the spin on Fox News progresses over the next days but I suspect that the Republican elite are starting to view her as more of a liability than an asset.
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Do you really think the alarm over Obama's spending habits is "exaggerated rhetoric"??

When Bush left office the federal deficeit was about 480 billion before the stimulus, Obama's first budget was 1.5 trillion in the red....
You are saying that Bush's deficit before the stimulus was 480 billion. That stimulus is the whole point. Both Bush and Obama introduced stimulus packages to try to shore up the US economy that likely would have done far worse without the stimulus packages. I don't like to see us go farther into debt. However, there is one type of situation where I view added debt as necessary - i.e. to try to get us out of Recession. That is precisely the situation we are in. I know that you probably don't believe in Keynesian economics but it did work to get us out of the Great Depression and it did work for Reagan to pull us out of the late 70s Recession.
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Quick question..., 1 billion seconds is roughly 31 years..., How many years is a trillion seconds? Once you convert that to dollars..., do ya think there might be reason for concern???
A trillion dollars may seem like an enormous amount to you and me but we cannot compare a trillion dollars to our own finances. We need to compare them to the finances of the US. In other words, that added debt needs to be compared to US GDP. Compared to our over $14 trillion GDP, that $1 trillion is around seven percent. That is the equivalent of someone earning $30,000 a year borrowing $2100 - not a great thing to do but certainly sustainable.
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I don't think that most people pay any attention to her earlier career habits. She gained popularity because of her personal attractiveness, charisma, and because she was saying the things that conservatives enjoyed hearing.
And she gained notoriety with Democrats for the same reasons. It's not like the running mates of past losing presidential candidates historically get much attention. How many people remember William Miller (Goldwater), or James Stockdale (Perot) or Geraldine Ferraro, (Mondale)? It's not like Palin was even the first woman VP candidate. Why has she gotten so much attention?

It makes one wonder if she regrets accepting McCain's offer. Her situation as governor of Alaska changed completly after being named the VP candidate.

Palin Falls into Legal Debt Fighting Ethics Charges | NBC Chicago

I don't think she had much choice about resigning. If she'd tried to complete the term, the Democrat machine would have made her look far worse at the end of it, than she looks now.

I'm sure she's got offers for speaking engagements etc that will pay far better than governors pay anyway.

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It will be interesting to watch how the spin on Fox News progresses over the next days but I suspect that the Republican elite are starting to view her as more of a liability than an asset.
There will be some spin from other places as well. The Democrat elite aren't over their nervousness about her yet either. 2012 is a long way off.
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I would imagine the Dem's fondest dream is to have Palin declare herself in the running for 2012.
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America is liberated from the scourge of the Sarah Palin.

Obviously, there must be some sort of investigation going on which will disclose something icky about Palin and she's getting out while the getting is good.
Like the lying leftist bloggers who have slandered her since becoming a national personality, here we have simone assuming the very worst about her based on nothing at all. Especially since every one of the, what was it, 14 separate ethics investigations brought against her that have all been found to be false charges against her, personally costing her a million dollars to defend against and costing the State around 10 million dollars.

In an unprecedented move, the FBI did something it never does and that is to give a press release declaring that they aren't investigating someone for wrongdoing of any kind. I can't imagine how threatened of her you are for you to lie and defame her at every turn as you do. Read it and weep slanderer.
FBI counters rumors, says Palin isn't under investigation
RUMORS WRONG: Agent rebuts circulating allegations cited by Anchorage blogger.

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The FBI is taking the unusual step of declaring that Gov. Sarah Palin is not under investigation, as Palin herself left for Western Alaska and communicated to the world through her Twitter account.


"We are not investigating her," FBI spokesman Eric Gonzalez said on Sunday. "Normally we don't confirm or deny those kind of allegations out there, but by not doing so it just casts her in a very bad light. There is just no truth to those rumors out there in the blogosphere."

Palin has ignored requests for an interview since she abruptly announced Friday that she will be resigning as governor after two and a half years in office. She's used her Facebook page and Twitter account to speak for her and declare that she'll defend herself against attacks as she leaves office.

"Critics are spinning, so hang in there as they feed false info on the right decision made as I enter last yr in office to not run again," she said Sunday via the Internet social media Twitter. "So I'll make attempt to keep up w/attaching corrected info."

Palin "tweeted" that she would be going to two "West AK" villages on Sunday and indicated she'd soon be joining her family for a day of fishing at its commercial setnet site on the Nushagak River in Bristol Bay. That was the best indication of her whereabouts, as neither Palin's personal nor state spokeswomen responded to requests for comment. She remains the governor until July 26.

There's been raging national speculation about why she is resigning. Palin, in her Friday speech announcing it, cited frustration over all the ethics complaints filed against her. She said she didn't want to be a "lame duck" with no plans to run for re-election, and intended to take on an unspecified new role advancing the values she supports.

Palin's personal attorney, Thomas Von Flein, on Saturday denounced rumors that Palin resigned because she is under criminal investigation, and threatened legal action against anyone publishing such "defamatory" material about the governor. Van Flein specifically targeted Shannyn Moore, a blogger and radio talk show host in Anchorage.

Moore fired back on Sunday by calling a press conference in front of the governor's downtown Anchorage office and calling Palin "a coward and a bully." Moore said she only pointed out that rumors existed -- and she never claimed them to be fact.

"What kind of politician attacks an ordinary American on the Fourth of July for speaking her mind? What's wrong with her? The first amendment was designed to protect people like me from people like her. Our American revolution got rid of kings. And it got rid of queens, as well. Am I annoyed? You betcha," Moore said.

She said that "Shannyn Moore will not be muzzled."

Van Flein responded Sunday that it is not about muzzling. Palin is entitled to respond to lies, he said.

"The Constitution allows anyone to print what they want, but it does not say you can do so with impunity and with a total disassociation from reality ... to be blunt: falsely implying that the governor, or her husband, are under federal investigation, is not free speech, " Van Flein said.

Such rumors were common on the Internet last fall when Palin was running for vice president, and they have surfaced on many Web sites in recent days. Moore apparently got Palin's attention when she spoke about it on the national television network MSNBC on Friday, the day Palin announced she would resign in three weeks.

"There is a scandal rumor here that there is a criminal investigation into some activities and that's been rumored for about, I don't know, probably six weeks or two months," Moore said on MSNBC, later commenting that Palin looked nervous and she believed the governor was doing damage control for news that would come out.

Van Flein on Sunday also highlighted a message Moore sent Friday on her own Twitter account, saying "yes, I know the nature of the scandal. Timing, baby timing." He said Moore has been cited as a source for reporting of a possible federal indictment. (The national "Brad Blog" quoted Moore as saying Palin resigned because a scandal was about to break. Moore said she was misquoted and can't control other blogs.)

Moore said the governor's sudden resignation didn't make sense and has Alaskans wondering what is really going on. She said Palin had a "massive overreaction" to her comments.

"I think it's great that the FBI has come out and said the rumor isn't true. ... But the fact, that I reported, that there was a rumor, is true. There was a rumor and she dispelled the rumor and that's great," Moore said.

Palin's reaction came Sunday via her Twitter account, which limits all messages to 140 characters.

"Trying to keep up w/getting truth to u, like proof there's no 'FBI scandal'," the governor tweeted.
FBI counters rumors, says Palin isn't under investigation: Gov. Sarah Palin | adn.com
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I would imagine the Dem's fondest dream is to have Palin declare herself in the running for 2012.
Funny, it's the fondest dream of true conservatives also. And by 2012 she will look really good in comparison to havoc left in the wake of this leftist majority, led by their socialist messiah.
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Caribou Barbie couldn't beat Bo, let alone Barack Obama, so who is the far right's 2016 candidate?
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Caribou Barbie couldn't beat Bo, let alone Barack Obama, so who is the far right's 2016 candidate?
Of course, this isn't trolling nor is it an attempt to perpetuate the Perpetual Non-Topical Obfuscation of these threads!
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Of course, this isn't trolling nor is it an attempt to perpetuate the Perpetual Non-Topical Obfuscation of these threads!
It is a concise observation on the sad state of the American right, who see a step toward the extreme fringe as the way back to power. (unless they plan another rebellion/secession!)

Her lawyer's comment that the blogospere is full of lies about federal investigations and houses, indicates that there is probably a federal indictment pending over her dubious house ownership shenanigans. She's toast.
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It is a concise observation on the sad state of the American right, who see a step toward the extreme fringe as the way back to power. (unless they plan another rebellion/secession!)
"Caribu Barbie" must mean something different in your English then in mine.

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Her lawyer's comment that the blogospere is full of lies about federal investigations and houses, indicates that there is probably a federal indictment pending over her dubious house ownership shenanigans. She's toast.
Well, at least now you're back on topic...lol. Actually, bro, I'm just giving you a hard time as a reminder about glass houses and stones.
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And she gained notoriety with Democrats for the same reasons. It's not like the running mates of past losing presidential candidates historically get much attention. How many people remember William Miller (Goldwater), or James Stockdale (Perot) or Geraldine Ferraro, (Mondale)? It's not like Palin was even the first woman VP candidate. Why has she gotten so much attention?
Ever since the mid-90s, the rhetoric between the two parties has become even more polarized. Sarah Palin, with her "Obama is a socialist", "Obama pals around with terrorists" and other such rhetoric is a very polarizing figure - unlike most Vice-Presidential candidates of the past. That, along with the added attention paid to her due to her popularity with the right wing, is why she is getting so much attention. To Democrats, she represents the same type of approach that Bush did (probably even worse) - something that, after eight years of having had to deal with Bush's policies, Democrats are very tired of putting up with. That situation did not exist during the campaigns of the other Vice-Presidential candidates that you mention.
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It makes one wonder if she regrets accepting McCain's offer. Her situation as governor of Alaska changed completly after being named the VP candidate.

Palin Falls into Legal Debt Fighting Ethics Charges | NBC Chicago

I don't think she had much choice about resigning. If she'd tried to complete the term, the Democrat machine would have made her look far worse at the end of it, than she looks now.

I'm sure she's got offers for speaking engagements etc that will pay far better than governors pay anyway.
I get the impression that she didn't realize how much scrutiny she would have to put up with when she accepted the Vice Presidential nomination - which would have been quite naive of her. Also, given how polarizing she herself chose to be in her rhetoric against Obama, she should not have been surprised that the Democrats would then try to dig up whatever dirt they could on her. If you live in glass houses, you shouldn't throw stones.

I don't know if she can recover from these mis-steps. She might not loose the support of some on the far right, but her current flakiness will make it much harder for her to gain sufficient numbers of swing voters if she does run for president in 2012.
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