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Should CRIMINALS have the right to choose DEATH over a LIFE sentence?: Originally Posted by The_Comedian Germany. Interesting stats; the high numbers of the ones electrocuted (thk god I´m not pc) somehow shocked me, because imho it is as barbaric as the chamber and afaik the chair ...
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    Quote Originally Posted by The_Comedian
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    Interesting stats; the high numbers of the ones electrocuted (thk god I´m not pc) somehow shocked me, because imho it is as barbaric as the chamber and afaik the chair already used to have malfunctions a century ago.

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    I found this on your linked site (interesting site somehow) and it made me wonder:
    "Wyoming":"Authorizes lethal gas if lethal injection is ever held to be unconstitutional."
    Nebraska is the only state where electrocution is the sole means of execution. Believe it or not, there have been prisoners who have requested electrocution despite lethal injection being available. I agree that electrocution is cruel, as is the gas chamber. But as long as they are only options, I support the criminals right to choose that particular method.

    The Wyoming thing only means that if lethal injetion is ever held to be unconstitutional for some reason, the gas chamber will be available for executions. This is not saying that if capital punishment is found unconsitutional they can still gas people and get away with it. The likelyhood of lethal injection ever being held as unconstitutional while capital punishment remains constitutional is highly unlikely.
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    That was some pretty interesting info on execution methods.
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    Personally, I think the option should be beyond their jurisdiction. We all know the death penalty is more costly, and we wouldn't want to expend more because of the whims of a criminal. Also, I think life imprisonment may cause more affliction and would add to the suffering of the inmate. So, no, I don't think they should have the option.

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    washington

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    Quote Originally Posted by Draconis
    What does the D.C. in Washington, D.C. stand for?
    District of Columbia.
    I am not sure about it, but I think the reason for this status was that no state should include the capital of the US.

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    Wink just my opinion

    hell no they shouldnt have the right to choose. they f**** up and they dont have any rights to anything anymore. once you make a decision to kill someone(self defense doesnt count) or rape, or whatever the case is i dont think they need their rights anymore..

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    No. They are no longer making the decisions and therefore should not be allowed to pick.

    However, if a criminal requests the death penalty, are there retrials to ensure the state isn't killing a innocent person?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Duo_Maxwell
    No. They are no longer making the decisions and therefore should not be allowed to pick.

    However, if a criminal requests the death penalty, are there retrials to ensure the state isn't killing a innocent person?
    Well I don't support ever using the death penalty but as long as we're saying there is the death penalty and allowing them to choose then definately don't have retrials. They shouldn't want to send an innocent person to prison for life either so it should have been pretty clear they were guilty already. If they don't want to kill an innocent person, stick to life in prison.
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    I think that they should be allowed choose death. Let' s face it. It's a win-win situation for the State and the inmate. It saves the State money and the inmate years of wasted time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JPSartre12
    I think that they should be allowed choose death. Let' s face it. It's a win-win situation for the State and the inmate. It saves the State money and the inmate years of wasted time.

    It costs the State more to give death than life in prison.
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    Quote Originally Posted by zachvac
    It costs the State more to give death than life in prison.
    Not true if the inmate asks to die before exhausting every possible appeal.

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    Quote Originally Posted by daewoo
    I agree entirely. Death is a much kinder sentence than life in prison, if you are sentenced to life, you should get to suffer for the whole bit.
    So what you are saying is that the actual purpose of prison is to be raped in the shower by some 400 pound guy called Betty? Or brutalised by a guard with an inferiority complex...and these don't strike you as cruel and unusual?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tastyfish
    So what you are saying is that the actual purpose of prison is to be raped in the shower by some 400 pound guy called Betty? Or brutalised by a guard with an inferiority complex...and these don't strike you as cruel and unusual?
    If only we could assure such behavior would definitely occur, I might be persuaded to keep some of them alive. The thought of a serial rapist or child molester being pounded daily by Bubba as his "love slave" has a certain ironic sadistic appeal to me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JPSartre12
    Not true if the inmate asks to die before exhausting every possible appeal.
    That is the question I asked. If they still choose death, is the state mandated to at least try one appeal?

    Appeals and retrials after such a request is currently cloudy.

    zachvac: yes the penalty has issues, I'm not going to even bother contesting that. I agree. We shouldn't be executing people like we do now, but I do think we SHOULD get rid of a few individuals who cannot be controlled or rehabiliated, not as a measure of justice, but as a means of making life a bit easier for the rest of society.
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    I'd tend to agree that they don't really get to choose, society as a whole makes the rules, and punishment.
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