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How easy would it be for an armed person to stop a school shooting?: Originally Posted by Brady gun nut logic: Private citizens shouldn’t be required to undergo training in order to qualify for a concealed-carry permit. They are born with the necessary skills to successfully brandish firearms against ...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Brady View Post
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    Private citizens shouldn’t be required to undergo training in order to qualify for a concealed-carry permit. They are born with the necessary skills to successfully brandish firearms against criminals, unlike police officers, who are required to train with their service handguns yet can still make fatal mistakes
    Government ordered training should never be made into a mandatory requirement for exercising a constitutional right.
    [QUOTE=Brady;363469]When I was a kid I did lots of things like playing with fire and torturing animals even though adults told me not to.[/QUOTE]
    The admission of a sociopathic serial killer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Winston Smith View Post
    and probably cheaper and deadlier.

    so what's the use of guns against a hand grenade?
    Stop the trolling. Either contribute something meaningful or get out.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Winston Smith View Post
    so we have the 'criminals' shooting from the door and the students shooting from the back of the class and everybody else caught in the crossfire, and ricocheting bullets
    hmm.. no need to count the losses, just gimme the class roll and the name of the teacher
    You're right, everyone getting one through the head execution style is better than a few kids getting grazed by ricochets.

    Quote Originally Posted by Winston Smith View Post
    easy! press the fire alarm
    And then what? You're going to sprinkler him to death? What makes you think a fire alarm will shield kids from small arms fire? If it were that easy, the army would just carry little personal fire alarms to "protect" them at all times.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Addison48 View Post
    Against a hand grenade there is no use for guns. However if someone comes into the school with a gun then guns will have a use.

    Whats the use of banning/restricting guns if someone can make a homemade explosive device that is more effective then guns?
    Against a hand grenade there is no use for guns.

    Therefore, what's the use of not banning/restricting guns if someone can make a homemade explosive device that is more effective than guns ?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Winston Smith View Post
    Against a hand grenade there is no use for guns.

    Therefore, what's the use of not banning/restricting guns if someone can make a homemade explosive device that is more effective than guns ?
    Because guns are alot easier to get than explosives.
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    hmm... so explosives are easy to get and guns a lot easier
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    Quote Originally Posted by Winston Smith View Post
    hmm... so explosives are easy to get and guns a lot easier
    Bulls***. The knowledge of how to make a hand-grenade sized explosive with all the power of a hand grenade isn't common knowledge.

    I don't even know why I'm wasting time talking to you. You don't really discuss any issues, you just keep the discussion down to bickering over petty trivia for as long as you can.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Winston Smith View Post
    Against a hand grenade there is no use for guns.

    Therefore, what's the use of not banning/restricting guns if someone can make a homemade explosive device that is more effective than guns ?
    I already answered that. What is the use of banning them?
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    can a gun stop a man with a gun?

    mass shooters usually stop only when confronted by another gun or at some other point when they kill themselves with their own gun

    that is my opinion, anyway

    thus, it seems only logical that a someone with a gun might intervene and save some lives
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