Why anyone who objects to illegal immigration is called a raciest?

georged · #31 (**permalink**) 07-18-2006, 05:53 PM

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Originally Posted by wallninja

We can't just open our borders and let anyone in. People should speak at least basic English. If we open our borders to anyone then we will have a lot of non-English speaking people in our country. Besidesm, if we just let anyone in then terrorists would have an easy time getting in. Their does need to be immigration control. There are things that can be improoved upon and ways to help them get jobs, but letting anyone in isn't the right solution.

My paternal grandparents spoke no English when they arrived in the US. Nor did a majority of those who settled the US who were not from English speaking countries. Every major US city had and still has large sections of ethnic groups derived from non-English speaking immigration.

Shutting the door now solely because of one's language is about as racist as skin color.

emclean · #32 (**permalink**) 07-19-2006, 07:31 AM

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Do you allow that immigration policy can be used to control the color of your immigrant population?

can it be abused, yes, will it, most likley someone will abuse it. that is a sad trruth about anything that gives one person a perceved power over anouther, someone will abuse it.

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Making someone "illegal" certainly gives one a pretext for discrimination that is more palatable than a strictly racial one.

you are forgeting that the made themselves illegal, by violating the immagration laws, and by either not paying income taxes (also known as tax evasion), or by using a stolen SSN to pay taxes (also known as identity theft).

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I think basic spelling should be the test.

but i apoliged for it......

epaphras_faith · #33 (**permalink**) 07-19-2006, 06:22 PM

Build a wall, north and south. Begin deporting anyone not here legally. Absolutely no amnesty.

I live in a border state. My taxes go up every year to pay medical bill for those hear ILLEGALLY.

EF

sinjin · #34 (**permalink**) 07-20-2006, 11:43 AM

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Originally Posted by epaphras_faith

Build a wall, north and south. Begin deporting anyone not here legally. Absolutely no amnesty.

I live in a border state. My taxes go up every year to pay medical bill for those hear ILLEGALLY.

EF

Which taxes go up every year to pay for their medical?

sinjin · #35 (**permalink**) 07-20-2006, 11:46 AM

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Originally Posted by emclean

you are forgeting that the made themselves illegal, by violating the immagration laws, and by either not paying income taxes (also known as tax evasion), or by using a stolen SSN to pay taxes (also known as identity theft)

And many slaves became "runaways" which made them illegal too. I believe some laws are unjust and should be disrespected. Do you keep any banned firearms? Don't answer.

epaphras_faith · #36 (**permalink**) 07-20-2006, 12:03 PM

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Originally Posted by sinjin

Which taxes go up every year to pay for their medical?

My income and property taxes.

sinjin · #37 (**permalink**) 07-20-2006, 12:13 PM

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Originally Posted by epaphras_faith

My income and property taxes.

So the "every year" part is an exaggeration unless you'd care to provide a link.

Nobody's rates are adjusted every year.

epaphras_faith · #38 (**permalink**) 07-20-2006, 03:09 PM

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Originally Posted by sinjin

So the "every year" part is an exaggeration unless you'd care to provide a link.

Nobody's rates are adjusted every year.

My property taxes have increased every year. Not solely due to medical issues for illegal immigrants to be sure but in part.

My income taxes have continued to rise. My state is AZ if you really want to look it up.

We are one of the most affected in the country.

JPSartre12 · #39 (**permalink**) 07-20-2006, 08:14 PM

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Originally Posted by sinjin

So the "every year" part is an exaggeration unless you'd care to provide a link.

Nobody's rates are adjusted every year.

Like hell they're not. Here in Michigan we get annual increases in our property taxes.

JPSartre12 · #40 (**permalink**) 07-20-2006, 08:17 PM

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Originally Posted by sinjin

And many slaves became "runaways" which made them illegal too. I believe some laws are unjust and should be disrespected. Do you keep any banned firearms? Don't answer.

And slavery was baned by a Constitutional Amendment. When illegals get an Amendment protecting them, we won't deport them Until then, throw them out!

And do you employ any illegal aliens? Don't answer.

sinjin · #41 (**permalink**) 07-20-2006, 08:56 PM

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Originally Posted by JPSartre12

And slavery was baned by a Constitutional Amendment. When illegals get an Amendment protecting them, we won't deport them...

I don't think it need be a Constitutional issue.

Today the E.U., tomorrow the A.U.

georged · #42 (**permalink**) 07-20-2006, 08:56 PM

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Originally Posted by JPSartre12

Like hell they're not. Here in Michigan we get annual increases in our property taxes.

The majority of real property tax revenue from residences in all states are dispersed at local levels for schools. Do you have a lot of illegal immigrants attending your public schools? Even if they live in rental domiciles the landlord pays that share. That landlord also contributes his expense transactions and often profit to your state economy.

sinjin · #43 (**permalink**) 07-20-2006, 09:23 PM

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Originally Posted by JPSartre12

Like hell they're not. Here in Michigan we get annual increases in our property taxes.

If so I stand corrected and my sympathies. I still doubt this is a consequence of having to fund medical expenditures on illegal aliens. Most male illegal immigrant rarely visit doctors except when injured and the females probably only to deliver babies. I think I remember you being pro-baby. This strikes me more as a red herring of the "they're breeding like rats" variety which I encountered before. Not to say those are your sentiments JP.

emclean · #44 (**permalink**) 07-21-2006, 07:10 AM

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And many slaves became "runaways" which made them illegal too. I believe some laws are unjust and should be disrespected.

do you beleve that we should have open bourders, with no controles on who enters or exits the country?

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Do you keep any banned firearms?

that is what i love about Indiana, only thing banned is a SBS.

epaphras_faith · #45 (**permalink**) 07-21-2006, 10:31 AM

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Originally Posted by georged

The majority of real property tax revenue from residences in all states are dispersed at local levels for schools. Do you have a lot of illegal immigrants attending your public schools? Even if they live in rental domiciles the landlord pays that share. That landlord also contributes his expense transactions and often profit to your state economy.

We have many attending our public schools. I know how the taxes are used. Illegal immigrants cost this country huge amounts and contribute little because frequently their income goes back to mexico. Why do you think the Mexican government has done so little to help and has actually assisted illegal crossing? It is a significant portion of the Mexican economy.

EF

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