Originally Posted by BeHereNow

You may be very stupid, and yet not feel a bit stuipid.
You may be very young, and not feel young at all. It is very common for 12 yearl olds to feel very grownup, and mature, and yet those who have reached the ripe old age of 30, know differently.

You may be very wealthy, and yet feel as though you have no great wealth.
It is common among the wealthy, to suppose they only have what they deserve, and certainly do not enjoy the wealth they see in others.

That's the problem with feelings as opposed to observations isn't it.

Originally Posted by BeHereNow

You beliefs about yourself are hardly what the scientifically inclined might call 'objective'.

Yet the most important tool in medical or psychological diagnosis is asking for symptoms.

Originally Posted by BeHereNow

Quite the opposite is generally recognized as Truth.
The way we view ourselves, is seldom the way the objective world views us.

The objective world does not view, it is. What you mean when you say the 'objective world' is others. If you cannot be trusted to see the evidence before your eyes why can anyone else?

When truth is defined as what is generally recognized I should not wonder that a truth may not be generally recognized as truth. I do not define it that way. The objective world, i.e. reality has proven it a bad definition.

Originally Posted by BeHereNow

Conscious thought 'required' to know any truth. Imagine that.

As if a hypnotist is not able to implant knowledge, into the mind of the subject, without the subject's awareness.

The moment the subject knows something they become aware, and when they become aware they know. It is true by definition.

Originally Posted by BeHereNow

You are just full of rubish, as ususal.

Ad hominem

Originally Posted by BeHereNow

But those who read your posts, know that without my pointing it out.

Then why did you point it out? Was it for those to stupid to realize for themselves or was it for yourself, because it certainly wasn't for me.

Originally Posted by BeHereNow

Sorry I can't stay longer.

I'm so sorry

Everyone has a mixture of conscious knowledge – skills and information about our world that we are aware of and have access to – and unconscious knowledge. Unconscious knowledge is also known as tacit knowledge, and is comprised of skills and essential insights about the world that we utilize but are rarely aware of. It is developed through challenging work and life experiences, and often assisted by instinctive or “natural” talents and strengths. Although our unique gifts come from this tacit knowledge, we are generally not aware that we possess it.
About Generative Knowledge Interviewing? - *

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Abstract
The chapter gives an overview of the use of subjective measures of unconscious knowledge. Unconscious knowledge is knowledge we have, and could very well be using, but we are not aware of. Hence appropriate methods for indicating unconscious knowledge must show that the person (a) has knowledge but (b) does not know that she has it. One way of determining awareness of knowing is by taking confidence ratings after making judgments. If the judgments are above baseline but the person believes they are guessing (guessing criterion) or confidence does not relate to accuracy (zero-correlation criterion) there is evidence of unconscious knowledge. The way these methods can deal with the problem of bias is discussed, as is the use of different types of confidence scales. The guessing and zero-correlation criteria show whether or not the person is aware of knowing the content of the judgment, but not whether the person is aware of what any knowledge was that enabled the judgment. Thus, a distinction is made between judgment and structural knowledge, and it is shown how the conscious status of the latter can also be assessed. Finally, the use of control over the use of knowledge as a subjective measure of judgment knowledge is illustrated. Experiments using artificial grammar learning and a serial reaction time task explore these issues.
Subjective measures of unconscious knowledge. [Prog Brain Res. 2008] - PubMed - NCBI

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institute of Philosophy, Faculty of letters, University of Porto, Portugal

The concept of unconscious knowledge is fundamental for an understanding of human
thought processes and mentation in general; however, the psychological community at large
is not familiar with it. this paper offers a survey of the main psychological research currently
being carried out into cognitive processes, and examines pathways that can be integrated
into a discipline of unconscious knowledge. it shows that the field has already a defined
history and discusses some of the features that all kinds of unconscious knowledge seem
to share at a deeper level. with the aim of promoting further research, we discuss the main
challenges which the postulation of unconscious cognition faces within the psychological
community.
www.ac-psych.org/download.php?id=90
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This paper investigates the dissociation between conscious and unconscious knowledge in an implicit learning paradigm. Two experiments employing the artificial grammar learning task explored the acquisition of unconscious and conscious knowledge of structure (structural knowledge). Structural knowledge was contrasted to knowledge of whether an item has that structure (judgment knowledge). For both structural and judgment knowledge, conscious awaareness was assessed using subjective measures. It was found that unconscious structural knowledge could lead to both conscious and unconscious judgment knowledge. When structural knowledge was unconscious, there was no tendency for judgment knowledge to become more conscious over time. Further, conscious rather than unconscious structural knowledge produced more consistent errors in judgments, was facilitated by instructions to search for rules, and after such instructions was harmed by a secondary task. The dissociations validate the use of these subjective measures of conscious awareness.
http://www.lifesci.susx.ac.uk/.../St...0knowledge.doc

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The concept of unconscious knowledge is fundamental for an understanding of human thought processes and mentation in general; however, the psychological community at large is not familiar with it. This paper offers a survey of the main psychological research currently being carried out into cognitive processes, and examines pathways that can be integrated into a discipline of unconscious knowledge. It shows that the field has already a defined history and discusses some of the features that all kinds of unconscious knowledge seem to share at a deeper level. With the aim of promoting further research, we discuss the main challenges which the postulation of unconscious cognition faces within the psychological community.
Unconscious knowledge: A survey

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People have an immense amount of very organized but almost entirely unconscious knowledge about language. This knowledge is what we use when we organize our thoughts for expression and when we understand what people are saying to us. We do these things so rapidly that we rarely pay attention to these remarkable processes—until we try to learn a new language, or until we encounter young children just learning to talk, or people with language disorders.
Department of Linguistics | University of Colorado at Boulder

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Abstract
An experiment explored the acquisition of conscious and unconscious knowledge of semantic prosody in a second language under incidental and intentional learning conditions. Semantic prosody is the conotational coloring of the semantics of a word, largely uncaptured by dictionary definitions. Contrary to some claims in the literature, we revealed that both conscious and unconscious knowledge were involved in the acquisition of semantic prosody. Intentional learning resulted in similar unconscious but more conscious knowledge than incidental learning. The results are discussed in terms of second language learning and the nature of unconscious knowledge.
ScienceDirect.com - Consciousness and Cognition - Acquisition of conscious and unconscious knowledge of semantic prosody

When you guess something, do you say you know it is that way or that you think it's that way?

Originally Posted by Tabbi

It's not nonsense Freedom dude, it's a simple fact of life. Human beings by their nature have preferences for certain things in certain ways and they have a dislike for matters that are different. Whether it's skin color, hair color, country of origin or even location in a state there will always be something that can keep people from existing in harmony and at odds with each other simply because they don't see exactly eye to eye.

Similar parameters and input can produce similar results without the program having a inherent bias to a certain outcome.

Harmony is impossible, peace is not.

Originally Posted by BeHereNow

You may be very stupid, and yet not feel a bit stuipid.
You may be very young, and not feel young at all. It is very common for 12 yearl olds to feel very grownup, and mature, and yet those who have reached the ripe old age of 30, know differently.

You may be very wealthy, and yet feel as though you have no great wealth.
It is common among the wealthy, to suppose they only have what they deserve, and certainly do not enjoy the wealth they see in others. ...

That is true; it is very hard to be objective (impartial), especially when political topics are concerned. Even some scientists I know are not objective.

Ludwik Kowalski (see Wikipedia).