Originally Posted by Chuz Life

I have yet to see any proof of either of these two allegations of yours. I'm sure there must be annectdotal evidence to infer either way. But unless there has been a controlled study complete with the necessary disciplines to insure it's validity,.. all we have left is conjecture.

I have posited my logic; that "it is illogical to conclude that a 30 second TV commercial achieves enough of the desired affect on people's behavior to justify the cost of the commercial. While we are at the same time expected to believe that endless hours of exposure to violent images in the form of music, games, etc. have no affect what-so-ever."

Do you have an explanation as to how that can be so?

Originally Posted by Killer Hawk

These games ruin developing brains of our kids.The kids are vulnarable to them.I am strongly agree with Jack Thompson who advocates mandated age rating on games.Visit Jack Thompson site.

Originally Posted by Iuris

To confirm any negative impact, no. They have to demonstrate THAT negative impact. Which I firmly recognize, for example, in the stereotypical lack of physical activity since computer games are more fun that sports and similar - but I also know that these factors are relatively minor and can be surmounted in reasonable ways.

But when accusations fly of violence and murder, then you have to actually have a suitable act by gamers. And if any correlation were made, I'd find it in internet gaming wimps who compensate their real world physical inferiority with the ego trips that games offer.

Originally Posted by DrNo

Please explain how games ruin developing brains of our kids.

Originally Posted by Chuz Life

Discussion
Each of the hypotheses was supported by the results of the study. Based on the GAM, it was hypothesized that exposure to video game violence would be positively correlated with trait hostility. This hypothesis was generally confirmed. Hostility was correlated significantly with three measures of violent content: the amount of violence adolescents like to have in video games, whether they like more or less violence now compared to 2 or 3 years ago, and the amount of video game violence they expose themselves to.
It was hypothesized that exposure to video game violence would be positively related to aggressive behaviors, such as arguments with teachers and physical fights. This hypothesis was confirmed. Students who play more violent video games are more likely to have been involved in physical fights and get into arguments with teachers more frequently. The relation between violent video game exposure and physical fights is stronger than that between violent game exposure and arguments with teachers. There are several possible reasons for this, including (1) arguing is less aggressive than fighting, (2) the target of arguing is an authority figure, rather than peers, and (3) there is very little arguing modelled in violent video games whereas there is a great deal of physical aggression modelled in violent games.
--Journal of Adolescence 27 (2004) 5–22

Discussion
The significant results of this experiment were as expected. Listening to violent music has an effect on aggression. This information is useful for parents of young children who are growing up watching these music videos. This specific study’s results and that of previous researchers reveal a serious problem. Our society as a whole should consider this a severe problem, especially with all of the school bombings, the high rates of angry, gang affiliated, weapon carrying young people, and the millions of dollars being spent on this violent and degrading (mostly to women) kind of music When the angry, violent, aggressive, vulgar videos were shown, participants portrayed a massive amount of hostility; their moods were changing as the video continued as did their behavior.--Journal of Undergraduate Psychological Research 2006, Vol. 1

Discussion
In 2001, two meta-analyses on the relationship between violence and video games were conducted. Anderson and Bushman's (2001) meta-analysis of thirty-five studies found a positive correlation between violent video games and aggression ( r = .19). In addition, violent video games were found to be negatively correlated with pro-social behavior ( r = -.17) and positively correlated with physiological arousal ( r = .22). Also, a positive correlation ( r = .18) was found for both increases in aggressive thoughts and affect. Sherry's (2001) meta-analysis of twenty-five studies calculates the correlation between video game play and aggression as r = .15, which is smaller than the correlation, found for television and violence ( r = .31) (Paik & Comstock, 1994). This study also found that fantasy and human violence resulted in greater aggression than sports violence. Interestingly, effect size was negatively related to playing time when comparing a playing time of 10 minutes to a playing time of 75 minutes. This brought up issues of arousal and catharsis. Does playing a video game initially cause arousal, and then result in catharsis of those emotions? Sherry (2001) also found that hostile feelings were aroused more often than hostile behaviors. --Jill M. Olthouse

You can read the rest on Google, yourself.

Originally Posted by Chuz Life

Did you not follow any of the links I provided? Several universities have provided just the sort of explanation you demanded.

Originally Posted by DrNo

Can you prove that playing video games causes hostility in people? Have you considered hostile people have a greater tendency to play video games?

Originally Posted by DrNo

BBC NEWS | Technology | Video games 'good for you'

USATODAY.com - Video games actually can be good for you

Can Videogames Actually Be Good For You? Neuroanthropology

Video games are good for your brain

There's a zillion articles that claim the exact opposite.

Originally Posted by Chuz Life

Several of the studies which observed before and after exposure to the video games and images showed an increase in hostile behavior. You really should read the studies, do some objective research if you are interested in anything more than defending the gaming industry.

Originally Posted by Chuz Life

I don't doubt that gaming "can" be good for some.

But, you are helping prove my point. Anything which "can" be good for you,... "can" also be bad for you. Can't it?

For you to trump out ONLY the beneficial aspects of gaming, while denying or ignoring or dismissing the negatives,.... That tells me a lot about your biases.

Originally Posted by DrNo

I With the amount of violence in movies, music, TV, and video games, we should basically be seeing a never-ending war in the streets if all of these forms of media directly cause violence. We don't see that, because none of these things cause violence.

Originally Posted by Chuz Life

I don't doubt that gaming "can" be good for some.

But, you are helping prove my point. Anything which "can" be good for you,... "can" also be bad for you. Can't it?

For you to trump out ONLY the beneficial aspects of gaming, while denying or ignoring or dismissing the negatives,.... That tells me a lot about your biases.

Originally Posted by CUNxTime

We know there are violent people. Some of those people will play video games. Some will go out and murder. The point is that there's no way to show whether or not they'd have been murders without video games. Since there have ALWAYS been murders, long before there were video games and since there hasn't been an increase in violence since the creation of video games, I don't see how there can be a correlation between the two.

Regardless, I love violent video games. And I will get violent if someone tries to take my World of Warcraft away. I'll pick up my Sword of Retribution and wade through the oppressors, decapitating heads, severing limbs, and spilling guts until a sea of blood runs through the streets.......