Originally Posted by Rekhyt2238

If all women aborted every pregnancy, there would be babies? Maby on your planet...

Why would all women want to abort every pregnancy? Is that what happens on your weird planet?

Originally Posted by ShadowPikachu

Did you even read what you quoted at all? *sigh* this is getting rather sickening with people not reading through. I'll say it for you again slower so maybe you can understand. If every woman in the world got an abortion at the same time (something so unlikely it isn't even funny), humanity would NOT end. They could very easily have babies later on. And what he said was, If all of a sudden women had abortions, it would be the end of humanity.

Of course there wouldn't be babies if ALL women aborted EVERY pregnancy. I never claimed otherwise, so you are arguing against something that you made up. I guess it's you who is on their own planet (coughilliterateplanetcough)

What you said:

If all of a sudden women had abortions, it would be the end of humanity

What he actually said:

If all of a sudden all women had abortions it would be the end of humanity.

ALL women aborted EVERY pregnancy

Did you read what you quoted at all? When you misquote the quote, you sound right, but when you put the key word ALL back into said quote, what he said and what I said sound the exact same....Maybe you should reread what you're quoting...*coughiliteratecough*(see, I can cough too)

Why would all women want to abort every pregnancy? Is that what happens on your weird planet?

When did I say that they did? All I said was IF they did.

As it happens, both my mother and my father both wanted me and planned for me.

So, if they hadn't planned for and wanted you, you would be perfectly fine with being dead right now?

Originally Posted by Rekhyt2238

What you said:


What he actually said:



Did you read what you quoted at all? When you misquote the quote, you sound right, but when you put the key word ALL back into said quote, what he said and what I said sound the exact same....Maybe you should reread what you're quoting...*coughiliteratecough*(see, I can cough too)

Allright, I admit that I didn't type in that word like I meant to. It was an honest typo. Either way whether I insert it or not, it does not mean the end of humanity. Do you think that somehow having an abortion makes it impossible for you to have a baby again? If you do, you're rather foolish. If you don't then my point stands. Every woman in the world could have an abortion RIGHT NOW. That doesn't mean they can no longer give birth to babies, nor does it mean that they won't do so (I'd know, I've had an abortion myself).

Also, if anyone is being dishonest here, it is YOU because in my previous post, Post #11 , I say:

Originally Posted by ShadowPikachu

What if all the women all had abortions? You say that would be the end of humanity?

With you trying to attack me with an obvious typo, that seems rather dishonest, as I clearly say in a previous post ALL the women ALL had abortions. So shove your pompous act where the sun don't shine and read everything instead of attacking over something as silly as a typo. BTW, I don't care one iota if you can cough or not, oh pompous one.

Originally Posted by Rekhyt2238

When did I say that they did? All I said was IF they did.

If, if, if, if ,if. You could go on for days with ifs, it doesn't mean they are realistic at all. If I had wings I could fly. If I had a million dollars I could buy everything I want to this holiday season. None of that means it will hapen or even that it is likely to happen.

Originally Posted by Rekhyt2238

So, if they hadn't planned for and wanted you, you would be perfectly fine with being dead right now?

No, she wouldn't be dead, she would just never have been born. There is a difference. Death requires life.

A casual typo eh? I saw it as you purposely leaving out a key word in a quote to change the meaning...

Originally Posted by Rekhyt2238

A casual typo eh? I saw it as you purposely leaving out a key word in a quote to change the meaning...

You can belive whatever you dang well please. That doesn't change the fact that it was a typo. It didn't drastically change the quote anyway, and AS I JUST POINTED OUT, but you were apparantly too dense to read, I said it correctly without that typo in Post #11, before I made the post that you are nitpicking and complaining about. Maybe you should read the entire post. And for the record, I care not one iot of what you beleive about it, but at least you should stop being dishonest here. I think that maybe you have run out of an argument and have resorted to nitpicking your opponent posts. If you have, just admit that you have no argument instead of using these cowardly tactics.

I'd like to know how many people talking about abortion have actually gone through it...not just known someone who had one but aborted their own child whether you were the female or the participating male.

I firmly believe that you really will never know what it's like until you experience it personally because I have, I know.

Nobody has the answer to this issue, we only have our opinions and what we think we would do in these situations. When it comes down to it, that is all the matters because nobody should be allowed to make you do anything. Nobody should be allowed to force you to have an abortion or force you to have a baby.

You never know that when you are presented with this complicated decision that you could change your mind. People need to stop arguing, it's not fair to the poor souls that are being given up for reasons unknown, for reasons only the woman knows. Nobody wants to kill their child, yes I do consider it a child and not a fetus, but sometimes life gets in the way and we have to make hard decisions.

BTW, to the original poster who says that women can experience depression, anxiety and suicide. Those things can also be said of women who are forced to carry a pregnany to term. Think about that. Just for your peace of mind, I'm perfectly happy with the decision I made (08/06) and have not experienced any depression or suicidal thoughts after the procedure. I only experienced depression during the pregnancy.

Originally Posted by Aivlis

I'd like to know how many people talking about abortion have actually gone through it...not just known someone who had one but aborted their own child whether you were the female or the participating male.

I firmly believe that you really will never know what it's like until you experience it personally because I have, I know.

Nobody has the answer to this issue, we only have our opinions and what we think we would do in these situations. When it comes down to it, that is all the matters because nobody should be allowed to make you do anything. Nobody should be allowed to force you to have an abortion or force you to have a baby.

You never know that when you are presented with this complicated decision that you could change your mind. People need to stop arguing, it's not fair to the poor souls that are being given up for reasons unknown, for reasons only the woman knows. Nobody wants to kill their child, yes I do consider it a child and not a fetus, but sometimes life gets in the way and we have to make hard decisions.

BTW, to the original poster who says that women can experience depression, anxiety and suicide. Those things can also be said of women who are forced to carry a pregnany to term. Think about that. Just for your peace of mind, I'm perfectly happy with the decision I made (08/06) and have not experienced any depression or suicidal thoughts after the procedure. I only experienced depression during the pregnancy.

I personally HAVE had an abortion. I had it close to a year ago, and while it was an extremely hard and emotional decision, I chose what was best for me. I was and still am engaged (planning our marriage to be next fall), and both my fiance and I were on birth control (I was on the pill and he used condoms). Unfortunately, despite those precautions, I became pregnant. We aren't that rich, and both of us our still finishing up our college degrees and are under enormous student loan burden. He supported my decision to abort as neither of us would have anywhere near the time or money to support a baby (hence our use of contraception), and neither of us have taken a full job in our fields yet to be able to provide that money to pay for the loans let alone a child.

I think this is one of the many circumstances in which abortion is absolutely justifiable, especially because I think that except for rare circumstances, abortion should be allowed up to the third trimester (the exceptions would be if the woman's life was in danger, etc. for a later abortion)

Originally Posted by Shooterandproud

I think I posted that awhile ago. Its huge BS. Thats like saying "Civil rights hurt blacks". Even though abortion may have some unwated side affects, its no where near the emotional and physical pain and suffering for the rest of your life than a forced pregnancy. Just goes to show that the pro-life movement is desperate.

Have you ever heard of "Project Rachel"
<http://www.hopeafterabortion.com/>

Originally Posted by dislexia

Have you ever heard of "Project Rachel"
<http://www.hopeafterabortion.com/>

I think I'm going to start a "Hope After Propoganda" site after reading that.

But really where the agony comes is when women go through with an unwanted pregnancy. Abortions usually solve a lot of women's problems, and most women never regret it.

Originally Posted by Shooterandproud

Even though abortion may have some unwated side affects, its no where near the emotional and physical pain and suffering for the rest of your life than a forced pregnancy. Just goes to show that the pro-life movement is desperate.

You mention forced pregnancies. Abortion is legal in the U.S.. Where do forced pregnancies occur. BTW, forced pregnancy a result of rape without a rubber?

Originally Posted by gman

You mention forced pregnancies. Abortion is legal in the U.S.. Where do forced pregnancies occur. BTW, forced pregnancy a result of rape without a rubber?

If you were king of the world, wouldn't you make abortion illegal? That is forced pregnancy.

Originally Posted by dislexia

Have you ever heard of "Project Rachel"
<http://www.hopeafterabortion.com/>

While these women clearly need counseling, and my heart goes out to them, they made a decision. If it was a mistake for them, that is terrible, but we all make mistakes and have to deal with them for the rest of our lives.

Plus, if you read some of the personal stories, these women didn't make free will decisions...for example, 'mom said get an abortion, or you're out'....'I was a victim of incest (her father)'....'I was 16 and coerced'...'pregnant from date rape'...'husband threatened to leave'...'I was Christian and ashamed'...

You never hear the stories about women who chose abortion and are happy in their choice.
To legislate against abortion because some women might have these issues is not good enough.

Originally Posted by Bell

While these women clearly need counseling, and my heart goes out to them, they made a decision. If it was a mistake for them, that is terrible, but we all make mistakes and have to deal with them for the rest of our lives.

Plus, if you read some of the personal stories, these women didn't make free will decisions...for example, 'mom said get an abortion, or you're out'....'I was a victim of incest (her father)'....'I was 16 and coerced'...'pregnant from date rape'...'husband threatened to leave'...'I was Christian and ashamed'...

You never hear the stories about women who chose abortion and are happy in their choice.
To legislate against abortion because some women might have these issues is not good enough.

Exactly. Most of them didn't chose abortion of their own accord. I personally had an abortion, and am quite happy about my choice, and I know several other women who would say the same, but you never hear their stories (talk about biased source).

Originally Posted by Shooterandproud

If you were king of the world, wouldn't you make abortion illegal? That is forced pregnancy.

Not exact because they'd still have the choice of not getting pregnant in the first place.