Attention! Fetus Worshipers!

**simone** · 01-01-2009, 11:03 AM

All your care and attention is focused on what is in the womb. What happens to people once outside of the womb matters not to you.

For example:

Western men who visit red-light districts in poor countries often find themselves surrounded by coquettish teenage girls laughingly tugging them toward the brothels. The men assume that the girls are there voluntarily, and in some cases they are right.

But anyone inclined to take the girls’ smiles at face value should talk to Sina Vann, who was once one of those smiling girls.

Sina is Vietnamese but was kidnapped at the age of 13 and taken to Cambodia, where she was drugged. She said she woke up naked and bloody on a bed with a white man — she doesn’t know his nationality — who had purchased her virginity.

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/01/01/op...01kristof.html

Where women, most especially girls, are not equal and subject to such abuse!

Sina mostly followed instructions and smiled alluringly at men because she would have been beaten if men didn’t choose her. But sometimes she was in such pain that she resisted, and then she said she would be dragged down to a torture chamber in the basement.

“Many of the brothels have these torture chambers,” she said. “They are underground because then the girls’ screams are muffled.”

As in many brothels, the torture of choice was electric shocks. Sina would be tied down, doused in water and then prodded with wires running from the 220-volt wall outlet. The jolt causes intense pain, sometimes evacuation of the bladder and bowel — and even unconsciousness.

Oh, but Sina does not live in a womb so she is unimportant.

**gansao** · 01-01-2009, 11:38 AM

What this has got to do with an unborn child can only be discovered in your head.
However, I do agree forcing anyone into prostitution is one of the worst things that humans can do.
I say that not even being able to imagine the torture that these people endure.

**chester** · 01-01-2009, 12:14 PM

Originally Posted by gansao

What this has got to do with an unborn child can only be discovered in your head.

"Unborn child" is an oxymoron.

**simone** · 01-01-2009, 12:17 PM

So, you do indeed worship only fetuses. That is the only phase of human life that interests you.

I look at pregnancy as the beginning of life. I am concerned with that life from point of conception to death at, hopefully, at the end of a suitably long life.

I worry that a pregnant woman is being well-nourished, that she has access to good prenatal care to ensure a healthy and successful pregnancy.

I worry that a woman is not being forced to be pregnant.

I worry that a unwanted child will not be given the welcome into the world that it deserves because the mother is a victim of poverty and warfare.

I worry about what happens to people after they are born.

Will they have enough food?

Will they be well treated?

Will they be subjected to warfare?

And I worry about you, because you have such a narrow, unfeeling view of life, all of life. I am very sorry for you.

**gansao** · 01-01-2009, 12:20 PM

Originally Posted by chester

"Unborn child" is an oxymoron.

You are wrong

Though a child is a description of a human after it has been born, the 'unborn' bit tells you the status of that human.
Lets say for a pedant it is the wrong description but it describes the subject perfectly .
You are technically right but were are here to debate and not to enjoy an english lesson from you therefore your comment has nothing to add to the debate.

Archangel · 01-01-2009, 12:29 PM