I have family in central Pa. where there are a lot of amish farms. One of our friends has a house next to an Amish farm. The amish have a phones (in the barn), electricity, some have moved to machines to help them farm. They had to do this to survive modern times. As far as their religion. The are pretty stringent about their beliefs. They do take the bible to almost an extreme. It is facinating. They are also very private people, not so friendly to outsiders. Not saying I know much more than this, or that I am an expert. the point was some do have phones and machines.

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