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Tdkocher · #**332** (**permalink**) 06-01-2008, 08:45 AM

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Originally Posted by antonia

I've seen school administrators lecture students on dress less riske than what we wore in the '70's -- and when the quality of education was better too, partly because we were concerned with more important things than dress codes. No one ever mentioned our clothing, unless you were being complimented. And we even attended school barefoot sometimes.

But these administrators, and some teachers, project all sorts of their own psychological hang-ups on students, including attitudes that the students simply don't have. Based on how they dress. Especially if they come from another culture, in or outside the U.S. It's a virtual lab for studying ethnocentricism if you want to do your own underground work as a student without the teacher or administrator being aware. Start taking notes. And the teachers don't have be white or speak only one language to be this kind of clothing cop head. After all, it's what they pay them to do. Throw in some church on the side, and you may a secret religious movement inside your school going among a few professionals touching heads quietly in the xerox room while they get some student teacher to run off case laws on the 1st Amendment.

Yeah, public school is really taking a dive in more ways than one. Dress codes as an urgent issue of the day is but a symptom of far greater problems going on. Including administrators who have nothing to do with their time but harass and blame attractive students for the troubles that boys give them.

Instead of having girls change their clothing, or shaming them about it, they should be giving boys instruction in responsibility for their own actions. And spending more time just teaching students what it means to respect one another.

But the problem with such lessons is the teachers don't know what respect means. This is part and parcel of the growing bullying problem in schools, too. How can adults teach students not to bully when they bully each other and bully the students all the day along, day after day. And deeply and sincerely believe in their bullying.

Is it any wonder they have these problems?

http://www.newciv.org/whole/schoolteacher.txt

I totally agree. Attempts to implement uniforms, curfews, ect. were meant to help control rowdy kids. The problem is, the kids are like this because this is how they have been poorly raised by the baby boomers population or the children of baby boomers. Think about it, drugs, violence, and the increasing rebellion with each decade as it goes by. I think that uniforms (whether right or wrong) have only been implemented in public schools in an attempt to control the rowdy kids that only act that way because there parents have not raised them correctly. I think (as conservative as this might sound) that we need some way to make the parents have a bigger burden of responcibility. Some of them oviously don't tink that raising their kid(s) is that important. We should make so that the parent(s) can't go to work if their kid(s) don't abide the laws or they have to take parenting classes throughout the kid(s) earlier life if they are found to not spend enough time with their child(ren).